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<svnbotl> r25755 | kjs++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [pdd06] add note about a pasm grammar in bison. This might be handy when this pdd is being reviewed and updated.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25755
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<JamesA> Can I ask a quick question that will save me hours of reading and testing. Is it possible to disable certain operators within parrot (e.g. disable io). Must this be done to the source code or can it be done similar to that in Opcodes.pm? (I am looking at the perl5 embeded parrot).
<JamesA> Opcodes - http://search.cpan.org/~rgarcia/perl-5.10.0/ext/Opcode/Opcode.pm
<shorten> JamesA's url is at http://xrl.us/bgbga
<cognominal_> JamesA, I know that Parrot operator are classified by category. I don't know if anything is done to disable t compile or runtime.
<cognominal_> at least this is probably a good hook to implement that feature if (probably) missing
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<JamesA> thanks for your help, I'll examine the source and see what I can find
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<cognominal_> you are welcome, #parrot is a friendly place
<cognominal_> oops
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<svnbotl> r25756 | jkeenan++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : Parrot::Configure::add_steps():  Modify so that instead of assigning the list
<svnbotl> : of new steps en masse to the list_of_steps attribute, push them individually
<svnbotl> : onto the array which is the value of that attribute -- thereby averting wiping
<svnbotl> : out any steps which are already present in that attribute.  This should have
<svnbotl> : onto the array which is the value of that attribute -- thereby averting wiping
<svnbotl> : out any steps which are already present in that attribute.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25757
<svnbotl> r25758 | jkeenan++ | tcif:
<svnbotl> : Minor corrections in update_state().
<svnbotl> r25759 | jkeenan++ | tcif:
<svnbotl> : Add a third test file to test Parrot::Configure::Parallel::Trace to test
<svnbotl> : case where two different configuration steps are tested.
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<kid51> Hmm, svnbotl just mushed together two separate (though similar) commit messages.
<skids>  /me eyeballing http://judy.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html for use in Sets/Bags/Multidim Hashes
<skids> which raises a ton of questions
<skids> like, how important is running mallocs through the GC and/or making them relocatable.
<skids> and licensing/maint issues -- probably best to keep a frozen version in the core, right?
<skids> Also, how fast/memory efficient etc need be freeze/thaw which I guess amounts to what are people using freeze/thaw for.
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* Andy is sitting in the FP Parrot talk
<kid51> who is giving it?
<Andy> Allison
<Andy> http://www.frozen-perl.org/mpw2008/schedule
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<Andy> Every time Allison mentions Lisp, drink!
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<svnbotl> r25761 | petdance++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : remove unused return
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25761
<c_otto> Does anyone know about compatibility between the Zend license 2.00 (basically modified BSD w/ advertising clause) and the Artistic License?
<Andy> "All the rest of teh continuation context will get garbage collected" says Allison.
<Andy> IF OUR GARBAGE COLLECTOR WORKED
<Andy> :-)
<Andy> She's showing the architecture of PGE, PCT, PASM, PIR
<Andy> BUT WHERE IS MY HEADERIZER?
<Andy> Damn, ghettoized again!
* davidfetter lives in the ghetto
<davidfetter> would monsieur care for some greens and a 40?
<svnbotl> r25762 | petdance++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : removed an unused return, and an extra cast
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25762
<Andy> can i get some grey poupon?
<davidfetter> certainly. it's carried at every ghetto mart i've been in in the past 5 years
<Andy> oh no she made finger quotes!
<davidfetter> apart from "doesn't work yet," what's the state of parrots' GC?
<davidfetter> parrot's*
<Andy> It's just leaky and causes some segfaults at times.
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<Andy> chromatic's done a lot of work on it recently
<davidfetter> :)
<Andy> Whoo, a Rakudo mention!
<svnbotl> r25763 | paultcochrane++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [config] Applied patch from Andy Dougherty in RT#50066.  This now fixes the 
<svnbotl> : issue whereby LIBPARROT_STATIC wasn't being expanded properly and therefore
<svnbotl> : caused Solaris to fail to build.
<svnbotl> r25764 | petdance++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : consting argv, which quiets warnings, too
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25764
<davidfetter> Andy, url?
<Andy> for what?
<Andy> Rakudo?
<purl> i heard Rakudo was The Way Of The Camel. or having some failing tests as of 22JAN08 or Gotta Catch 'Em All or in languages/perl6 (see http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/browse/trunk/languages/perl6) or http://use.perl.org/~pmichaud/journal/35400
<Andy> purl, Rakudo is also http://rakudo.org
<purl> okay, Andy.
<davidfetter> Andy, for the mention :)
<Andy> She's giving a talk
<Andy> at FP
* davidfetter slow this morning, as coffee is still metabolizing
<davidfetter> FP?
<purl> i think FP is fp. it's not mmx or frontpage or functional programming or floating point or french press or first post or frozen perl
* davidfetter went to allison's talk at SCALE. it was good, the half of it that the audience let her give :P
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<svnbotl> r25765 | paultcochrane++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [src,docs] Applying patch in RT#48142 which removes the deprecated
<svnbotl> : class_type vtable entry.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25765
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<svnbotl> r25766 | petdance++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : turning NOTNULLs into ARGMOD
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25766
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<amoore> purl, FP is also Frozen Perl: http://www.frozen-perl.org/mpw2008/
<purl> okay, amoore.
<svnbotl> r25767 | paultcochrane++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [core,t] Applied patch supplied in RT#42375, with the "I am a class" test
<svnbotl> : modified as mentioned by Allison.  This patch removes the deprecated pmcinfo
<svnbotl> : opcode.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25767
<cognominal_> can someone explains me the difference between the dynamic and the static type of a pmc?
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* Coke still doesn't know why this warning is occurring.
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<svnbotl> r25768 | petdance++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : changed an endless while to a do/while
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25768
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* ptc <-- afk
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<Andy> back
<svnbotl> r25769 | jkeenan++ | tcif:
<svnbotl> : Add 064-parallel.t to provide additional coverage of Parallel::Trace.  Eliminate commented-out code from init_manifest-01.t.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25769
<svnbotl> r25770 | jkeenan++ | tcif:
<svnbotl> : Simplify name of subroutine from 'store_this_step_pure' to 'store_this_step'.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25770
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<bgeron> is http://www.parrotcode.org/source.html generated from POD in SVN?
<bgeron> anyway, after #subversion: "Subversion aims is to be" has an "is" too many
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<svnbotl> r25771 | jkeenan++ | tcif:
<svnbotl> : Begin to convert configuration step tests to parallel trace mode.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25771
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<svnbotl> r25772 | rblasch++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [jit] Applied patch RT#44765.  This avoids reusing the interpreter argument on
<svnbotl> : the stack, which doesn't work if the compiler uses the stack space, e.g.
<svnbotl> : optimized VC++ build.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25772
<svnbotl> r25773 | chromatic++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [t] This test file referred to pmcinfo.pasm, which r25767 removed.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25773
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<chromatic> Our GC isn't leaky, though.
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<chromatic> I haven't seen a GC segfault on any platform that I own in quite a while either!
<cognominal_> > can someone explains me the difference between the dynamic and the static type of a pmc?
<cognominal_> chromatic?
<cognominal_> I discover a lot evolution since I checked out mcs,  roles, attributes...
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<cognominal_> hum roles are specified but no implemented
<cognominal_> ack++
<Andy> heh
<Andy> why now?
<chromatic> cognominal_, I'm not sure myself.  The static type may resolve at compile time to a direct C function call, while the dynamic type may need runtime lookup.  That's just a guess though.
<cognominal_> Andy, cuz it help me to see that something is specced and not implemented
<chromatic> Wow, Tcl is done.
<Andy> hey c
<chromatic> yeah Andy?
<Andy> just syain' hi
<Andy> I'm trying to get libgmalloc to be useful for me on my Mac
<chromatic> You crazy Mac kids.
<cognominal_> I own an Intel Macbook.  I have been disappointed by the hardware, but I love the software
<cognominal_> and underneath that's an Unix. 
<chromatic> A Unix that shows the best architectural decisions of BSD 4.3 circa NeXT circa 1987, yes.
<cognominal_> I was at Sun when they merged all the ATT System V crap
<Andy> But I need to download XCode 3.0 and it's 1.1G
<cognominal_> bad memories
<cognominal_> Andy: it is worth it, not that I am a Xcode and Interface builder specialist
<Andy> yeah, I know, I just don't want to hammer the wifi here
<cognominal_> cocoa cast will convince you if you doub it
<cognominal_> too bad, perl is not hooked to Xcode
<cognominal_> I think Apple is will eventually choose a dynamic language, so far these are Python and Ruby. I hope Parrot will make the difference
<cognominal_> AppleScript is such a crap
<cognominal_> if Perl is write only, AppleScript is read only :)
<cxreg> php is delete only
<cognominal_> well, a lot of nice apps are built on top of php, I wish that Perl can claim as much
<cognominal_> not that I want to touch the language with a ten foot pole
<Andy> hey chromatic, did you see my "make apilist" target?
<Andy> and make malloclist?
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<chromatic> I did, that's very nice.
<chromatic> Anyone want to trace a segfault in Tcl?
<parrot-poke> apple is on llvm
<parrot-poke> that makes c a dynamic language for them, especially woth objc
<parrot-poke> Xcode is very c centric
<cognominal_> llvm?
<purl> i heard llvm was a big huge thing with not much docs, but it works or low-level virtual machine or at http://www.llvm.org
<parrot-poke> low level virtual machine allows them to optimize and run code on all kinds of hardware
<parrot-poke> solves their problem for them, might have interesting lessons for parrot
<parrot-poke> web site has a lot of docs and discussion
<chromatic> Allison and I both know Chris and Tanya Lattner, who work on LLVM.
<chromatic> I helped them move a couch x-odd years ago, before they went to graduate school.
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<chromatic> Wow... parrot_split_path_ext.
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<chromatic> Andy, check out  parrot_split_path_ext.
<chromatic> It could use some lurve.
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<Coke> chromatic++ fixin' the website...
<svnbotl> r25774 | chromatic++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [JIT] Fixed an implicit cast C++ warning; improved the other declarations in
<svnbotl> : this function.  PPC only.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25774
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<chromatic> I'm trying to fix Tcl too.
<chromatic> It looks like the char * value of the name of a dynamically loaded library goes missing somehow.
<chromatic> Only during the bytecode thaw... I think.
<chromatic> Coke, which shootout fails for you on PPC?  10?
<Coke> (Tcl is done) what?
<chromatic> My mistake; I couldn't get any tests to run, but I had the PDD 17 branch patch applied locally.
<Coke> chromatic: I don't think shootout fails for me.
<chromatic> On Intel or PPC?
<Coke> chromatic: ... tcl runs in both trunk and pdd17pmc for me, last time I checked. It just segfaults most of the time.
<chromatic> Is the segfault in comparing two strings, where rhs has an invalid strstart?
<Coke> in ascii_compare, ja.
<Coke> ISTR there was another one; both had tickets, though.
<Coke> checking...
<Coke> (sent you a BT on the intlist failure.)
<Coke> er... macro failure. not intlist.
<chromatic> The problem is at stack frame #7; somehow macro_name is invalid.
<chromatic> Probably the part where I removed macro buffers from IMCC.
<chromatic> have to go though....
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<Coke> noooo
<chromatic_away> It should be an easy fix; just make sure that macro_name is valid.
<chromatic_away> Everything after that point is just noise.  That's the problem.
<Coke> I'll poke.
<Coke> ascii_compare is #49836
<chromatic_away> Should be r25546 that caused the problem.
<Coke> other issue was #50398; started as a segfault, but now it's "I don't understand pdd17."
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<Coke> I don't think that's the problem. I think we're reading past the end of the file.
<Coke> (based on the test that's failing.)
<Coke> oh. no, that's the code path, but you're right.
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<Coke> stepping through imcc.l in gdb sucks.
<Coke> ok. this is beyond my current C skill level.
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<svnbotl> r25775 | jkeenan++ | tcif:
<svnbotl> : Revising test to eliminate reliance on init::defaults and use P::C::Parallel::Trace instead.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25775
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<svnbotl> r25776 | jkeenan++ | tcif:
<svnbotl> : No need to consruct a P::C::Parallel::Trace object in P::C::Options::Test::new().
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25776
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<svnbotl> r25777 | coke++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [codingstd]
<svnbotl> : Make the shebang slightly more accurate; these are NQP files, not raw PIR.
<svnbotl> : (RT #50802)
<svnbotl> r25778 | jkeenan++ | tcif:
<svnbotl> : Revising test to eliminate reliance on init::defaults and use
<svnbotl> : Parrot::Configure::Parallel::Trace instead.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25778
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<svnbotl> r25779 | coke++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [codingstd]
<svnbotl> : Make the shebang slightly more accurate; these are rakudo files, not raw PIR.
<svnbotl> : (RT #50802)
<svnbotl> r25780 | coke++ | trunk:
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<svnbotl> r25781 | jkeenan++ | tcif:
<svnbotl> : Revising test to eliminate reliance on init::defaults and use
<svnbotl> : Parrot::Configure::Parallel::Trace instead.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25781
<simcop2387> ok i've got a .namespace ['Foo';'Bar'], and i'm trying to turn it into a class and use it by using the newclass opcode, and i'm getting an error calling it like this; $P0 = newclass ['Foo';'Bar'] ; whats the correct way to call that for that namespace?
<simcop2387> ah wait wrong section of the file hold on
<simcop2387> ok, the problem isn't with new class (i need sleep);  its when creating a new class, $P0 = new ['Foo';'Bar'], constructorargs
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<svnbotl> r25782 | jkeenan++ | tcif:
<svnbotl> : Revising test to eliminate reliance on init::defaults and use
<svnbotl> : Parrot::Configure::Parallel::Trace instead.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25782
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<Coke> question; if you don't have a ft=pir in a file, then vim is going to rely on, what, the file's extension?
<Coke> (so, for .pir files, the ft=pir is redundant?)
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<svnbotl> r25783 | jkeenan++ | tcif:
<svnbotl> : When using Parrot::Configure::Parallel::Trace, you cannot do a 'skip all' plan
<svnbotl> : -- at least not in the '01' test for a given config step.  You have to run the
<svnbotl> : test file at least thru 'store_this_test()', after which you may code a SKIP
<svnbotl> : block.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25783
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<svnbotl> r25784 | jkeenan++ | tcif:
<svnbotl> : Specify exact number of tests in plan.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25784
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<Coke> particle: ping
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<svnbotl> r25785 | jkeenan++ | tcif:
<svnbotl> : Revising test to eliminate reliance on init::defaults and use
<svnbotl> : Parrot::Configure::Parallel::Trace instead.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25785
<Coke> particle: nevermind
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<svnbotl> r25786 | chromatic++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [dist] Fixed copyright notice in CPAN passthrough Makefile.PL.
<svnbotl> r25787 | chromatic++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [lib] Simplified some code in Parrot::Distribution; it's a few lines shorter.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25787
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<chromatic> Coke, ping.
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<svnbotl> r25788 | jkeenan++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : Reverting changes in two lines made in r24840 which caused t/src/intlist.t to fail on Darwin thereafter.  Reverted test now passes on Darwin and continues to pass on Linux.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25788
<chromatic> Good debugging!
* kid51 must sleep
<purl> $kid51->sleep(8 * 3600);
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<chromatic> Hm, when you call a function through a function pointer in C, there's no signature checking.  Lovely.  CRASHBOOMBANG
<chromatic> ... and there's one PPC JIT segfault fixed.
<svnbotl> r25789 | chromatic++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [JIT] The shootout segfaults go away for me on PPC after changing the argument
<svnbotl> : signatures in the PPC JIT to match the arguments they get passed.  Passing in a
<svnbotl> : Parrot interpreter pointer and writing to it as if it were another kind of
<svnbotl> : pointer was just asking for crashes.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25789
<svnbotl> r25790 | chromatic++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [tools] Skip assembly (.s) files in the headerizer.  Now 'make headerizer'
<svnbotl> : works on Linux PPC.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=25790
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<svnbotl> r25791 | chromatic++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [library] Fix PostgreSQL library test so that it doesn't crash if you have the
<svnbotl> : PostgreSQL client library installed.
<svnbotl> : All tests pass (but most of them get skipped, because I don't have a test
<svnbotl> : database set up).
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