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<svnbotl> r26188 | fperrad++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [emacs]
<svnbotl> : - handles block .macro .endm
<svnbotl> r26189 | fperrad++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [Lua]
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<svnbotl> r26190 | fperrad++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [Lua]
<svnbotl> : MANIFEST
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26190
<purl> : MANIFEST is updated accordingly, and file props are set. yay!
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<Coke> We could use some mentors for parrot's attempt at SoC; If anyone has a project they are interested in, but don't personally have the time to do all the work on, a signup on the wiki would be most welcome.
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<Coke> soc?
<purl> hmmm... soc is short for [Google's] Summer of Code or Is it June 24th yet? http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html or Security Operations Center or http://www.perl.org/advocacy/summerofcode/index.html
<cognominal> le soc de la charrue de l'open source pour ceux qui ne sont pas des boeufs...
<Coke> french-zactly.
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<cognominal> oops, wrong channel
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<svnbotl> r26191 | fperrad++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [build] on Win32
<svnbotl> : - reverts r26185 (packdump.c is a part of pdump.exe, not of libparrot.dll)
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26191
<particle> andy: src\spf_render.c(99) : warning C4005: 'snprintf' : macro redefinition
<particle>         c:\usr\local\parrot\trunk\include\parrot/misc.h(28) : see previous definition of 'snprintf'
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<svnbotl> r26192 | petdance++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : doc patches from ajr
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26192
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<Coke> win 4
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<Andy> who wants to chase segfaults!
<cognominal> I have segfaults  some time after I do syntax errors when I use rakudo interactively but I am busy adding stuff to rakudo
<cognominal> on my macbook leopard.
<cognominal> but if you want traces or whatever I can give you that.
<cognominal> Probably exception handling has bugs.
<Coke> cognominal: there's a ticket for that, IIRC.
<cognominal> ok
<Coke> http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=49758
<cognominal> yea
<cognominal> speaking of scope, the interactive mode should not wrap a block around the eval  to behave like pugs
<cognominal> so one can declare lexicals and use them on later lines
<cognominal> that was bugging me so much for perl 5 that I wrote a RFC about that.
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<cognominal> http://dev.perl.org/perl6/rfc/351.html
<cognominal> boy that was almost eight year ago
<particle> so, you suggest that "perl6 -e 'my $x = 1' -e 'say $x'" should print 1?
<particle> or is this only in interactive mode?
<cognominal> that should be in interactive mode. for successive -e, I don't have opinion one way or the other because I never use it.
<cognominal> not even sure that rakudo options parser supports it.
<particle> i believe it does. that was certainly my intent when i implemented it.
<particle> however, i can't remember.
<cognominal> I had started rewriting in Perl6 but I got sidetracked by stuff missing in rakudo.
<particle> rewriting what in perl 6?
<cognominal> Getopt::Obj.
<particle> ah
<cognominal> jonathan and allision are planning long term : role and mmd... I just want to add basic stuffs missing so I can use rakudo immediately
<cognominal> and write an article in the french linux mag.
<particle> and Getopt is the subject of the article?
<particle> or a tool needed to do your work?
<cognominal> I don;t think so. That was just an exercise to better know pir and perl 6
<particle> ok
<cognominal> but why not it could be.
<cognominal> anyway there matter for many articles
<particle> indeed.
<particle> i need to work on perl6's command line syntax
<cognominal> some other french mongueur  has already started with three articles on pir.
<cognominal> but my goal is to show that rakudo can be immediately useful. I hope that will be true of the next release.
<particle> what's missing from rakudo for you to convert getopt::obj?
<cognominal> I don't remember :)
<cognominal> but when playing interactively I found some stuff wrong or missing
<cognominal> perhaps nothing concerning about getopt::obj after all :)
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<cognominal> but I got pissed of :)
<particle> yes, i wish it was done too :D
<cognominal> I sent a first patch yesterday, hoping to send more during the week.
<particle> great! looking forward to them
<cognominal> also the perl6 pod seems an interesting thing to work on later
<particle> please do!
<particle> i've got so many things to do now, i can't keep up with them all
<cognominal> we need to interlink our docs by annotating them properly
<cognominal> I am out of work. I had health problem that make me unable to sleep much and to be productive during the day. Getting better so I can now contribute.
<cognominal> And I need to demonstrate my expertise to find some work...
<particle> publishing articles on cutting edge software may help with that :)
<cognominal> we are publishing article about Perl about every month...
<cognominal> The french linux mag is what Dr Dobb's was twenty year ago.
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<cognominal> so we fit right in.
<particle> excellent
<cognominal> 2 year ago, I did even a april fool joke about a perl6 processor :)
<cognominal> http://articles.mongueurs.net/magazines/perles/perles-22.html
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<particle> hey, i can read french! well... some french words. like SUN and SPARC ;)
<cognominal> the bibliography is in English, including the last one about Douglas Adams :)
<cognominal> what is nice about the magazine is that we can publish the articles on the net  4 month after publication
<particle> very nice, indeed
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<Andy> oooo, Patrick has pissed off Acme of Orange: http://use.perl.org/~acme/journal/35798?from=rss
<cognominal> paste?
<purl> paste is (see: nopaste) or like glue but a little safer to sniff. or http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/ or http://scsys.co.uk:8001/ anywhere shadowpaste is or mmm, sticky paste or You there! Eating the paste. or <see> 2 girls, 1 paste
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<avar> Am I to understand that it's on?
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<cognominal> http://scsys.co.uk:8001/13680   # I try to override methods and they are not called when I  write  'my %a = (1,2)' or 'my %a; %a.say'
<cognominal> well get_string in Hash.pir is not my own doing but is not called either.
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<cognominal> also, and probably realted  when a  new 'Hash' is done, how Perl knows if it is the Perl6 class or the Parrot one, I am confused
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<Coke> new 'Hash' is most likely the parrot hash.
<Coke> er, the parrot 'Hash'.
<cognominal> so TGE generates the wrong code.
<cognominal> how to say, I want to create a Perl6 Hash?
<cognominal> TGE or actions.pm....
<Coke> ... you know what? Nevermind. I have no idea how perl6 works. =-)
<cognominal> I am still confused with these object layers
<cognominal> jonathan and allison know...
<cognominal> guess I need to go back to the sources and the doc
<cognominal> btw we have found a tshirt for our French perl5 pumpking, a fan of doctor Who : http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/popculture/9f69/zoom/
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<particle> you can't name a perl 6 object after a parrot object
<particle> that's why we have Perl6Str instead of String
<particle> call it Perl6Hash
<particle> when we start using HLL properly with rakudo/pct/etc then it'll work as you expect
<cognominal> ok
<cognominal> thx
<Coke> particle: what is src/class/Hash.pir then?
<particle> ah, ok. that's a parrot Hash, with overridden methods
<particle> ...which is what cognominal is using. sorry.
<Coke> So perl6 is using two different hashes at the moment?
<particle> i thought it was a new file, since it wasn't diff -u format
<particle> no
<Coke> ah, not hash, no. but string, yes? 
<Coke> ah. no.
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<cognominal> is there other instances of Perl class that have the same name as a Parrot class? I could see how the problem is solved
<cognominal> very strange, I had no such problem with the Pair class
<particle> cognominal: could you post your changes to src/classes/Hash.pir as an svn diff?
<cognominal> on the other hand I did not override 
<cognominal> http://scsys.co.uk:8001/13684
<cognominal> yesterday I sent a patch to parrotbug that would like to see applied
<cognominal> this one, at least, does what he is intended to do.
<cognominal> also I noted that  %a = 1, 2  works with the Perl 5 relative preceddence wich is a bug.
<particle> cognominal: submit a test to pugs for that, or report it as a bug to rakudobug@perl.org
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<cognominal> hum, probably pugs has a test for that. I check
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<cognominal> how can I run the pugs test on rakudo?
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<TimToady> t/spec/S03-operators/assign.t is close to correct
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<particle> make spectest
<purl> make spectest is failing more than usual too
<cotto_> how current is pmc_freeze.pod?
<particle> what does $Id$ say?
<particle> or svn log?
<purl> svn log is probably faster for some reason
<cotto_> 2006-07-24
<purl> 1975
<particle> purl, you moron.
<purl> particle: excuse me?
<cotto_> although it doesn't tell me how much the structure of Parrot has changed since then
<particle> cotto_: that date doesn't give me much confidence
<particle> well, ok. it's design notes for the prototype version of freeze/thaw
<particle> so, it's a historical document.
<particle> however, there haven't been major pmc changes since then
<particle> that will change this month, when we merge the pdd17pmc branch into trunk
<cotto_> so as soon as I figure it out, it will change?
<particle> if you're curious how that might affect you, feel free to co the branch and play around
<cotto_> like the universe
<particle> the universe changes faster. i suspect it's not an all-volunteer effort ;)
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<cotto_> what's special about the pdd17pmc branch?
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<particle> pdd17 is new, and we're implementing it in the branch
<particle> pdd17 is the design doc for pmcs
<cotto_> so if I read pdd17, I'll have some idea of what's going on?
<particle> yes
<cotto_> thanks
<cotto_> particle++
<cotto_> should I expect the pdd17pmc build to fail?
<diakopter> 2006/07/24
<purl> 11.9404761904762
<cotto_> purl can't get a date
<purl> cotto_: excuse me?
<particle> cotto_: no, it should build. however, i get a build error with msvc
<particle> it's a gc bug iirc
<particle> diakopter: the ircops requested we throttle svnbotl to 1msg/sec
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<particle> think you can manage to modify the startup script etc on feather to use throttling? (i think it's an option on that script)
<particle> i mean, i think it's an option on the ircbot script
<diakopter> particle: I've tried
<diakopter> I tried to add the option, but implemented it poorly/wrongly, I think
<particle> ah, hrmm.
<svnbotl> r26193 | bernhard++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : #42769: Remove unneeded type names from PIR
<svnbotl> : In imcc.y rename 'type_without_typename' back to 'type'.
<svnbotl> : Remove deprecation notice, as the deprecated feature is gone.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26193
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<nopaste> "as" at 82.135.229.130 pasted "as" (1 line) at http://nopaste.snit.ch/12434
<Coke> as?
<purl> i think as is the tutorial or ActiveState
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* barney will miss #ps tomorrow, due to Frankfurt.pm meet
<particle> if you have status report, feel free to post it there, or email it to me
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<barney> particle: mailed report
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<Tene> ack, ps tomorrow.  I'd better get some stuff done.
* Tene requests that the scheduled time for #ps be mentioned in the #ps topic
<Coke> no one in that discussion has ops
<Tene> eh, I'll forget about it shortly anyway.
<Coke> updated http://www.parrotcode.org/examples/pir.html so all the examples compile again.
* particle pictures tene in every scene from memento
<particle> coke: i think we had some tests for that type of thing
<particle> t/examples/*.t
<Coke> that file is not checked into the parrot repo.
<particle> ah.
<particle> yuck.
<Coke> particle: you going to reply to gabor's email?
<Coke> I'll do it. =-)
<particle> just did
<Coke> ... ok.
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<lichtkind> could someone point me please to a doc that explaines the scheme how is nqp written ?
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<Tene> particle: I'm not the one who writes patches and then forgets about writing them.
* spinclad has a suspicion re svnbotl: is its output full-buffered, so delays between lines only delay final output, or line-buffered, so they should work?  must check.  later, sadly.  must be elsewhere soon for meeting.  drive-by posting, no need to get up.  &
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<Andy> OK, back
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<svnbotl> r26194 | cspencer++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : Added a grep method that will parse and behave as expected when invoked in the form:
<svnbotl> :    "@list.grep({ $_ % 2 })" or "(1, 2, 3, 4, 5).grep({ $_ % 2 })"
<svnbotl> : Other forms (ie. "grep { $_ % 2 }, @list" and "@list.grep:{ $_ % 2 }" don't correctly parse the block and don't work as expected.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26194
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<svnbotl> r26195 | cspencer++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : Added a first method that will work for the form:
<svnbotl> :   "@list.first({ $_ eq 3 })" or "(1, 2, 3, 4, 5).first({ $_ eq 3 })"
<svnbotl> : Other forms won't parse (see previous grep commit message) until blocks are parsed correctly.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26195
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* Coke stares blindly at a GC error.
<Coke> if I have a pointer to a struct PMC_EXT, can I get gdb to dump the contents of that pointer?
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<Coke> anyone have ubuntu that can address RT#51340
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<Coke> is there a test target that does NOT include the configure stuff?
<kid51> Don't we now have 'make coretest' ?  (or is it coretests?)
<Coke> ahhhh.
<Coke> danke.
<svnbotl> r26196 | coke++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : RT #51136 -
<svnbotl> : avoid a segfault by commenting out this code: triggers memory leaks, but avoids segfaults.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26196
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<purl> $kid51->sleep(8 * 3600);
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<svnbotl> r26197 | chromatic++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [src] Fixed clone op not to share PMC_EXT structure between clone source and
<svnbotl> : its ultimate destination.  When the source PMC gets freed (during the next GC
<svnbotl> : run), the GC will free its PMC_EXT structure.  Sadly, because both structures
<svnbotl> : share the pointer, this means that it would be invalid in the clone
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26197
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<svnbotl> r26199 | petdance++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : Noting a bug with an XXX
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26199
<svnbotl> r26200 | chromatic++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [src] Minor cleanup and tidying.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26200
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