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<svnbotl> r26322 | chromatic++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [IMCC] Sped up compute_dominators() by about 75%.  In particular, walking
<svnbotl> : backwards through the three-level runner loop is responsible for most of the
<svnbotl> : gains.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26322
<svnbotl> r26323 | chromatic++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [IMCC] Minor cleanups of this file.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26323
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<svnbotl> : [Lua]
<svnbotl> : now works without --no-gc
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26324
<chromatic> Heh.  I've said that for while.
<lathos> chromatic: I take it you know about valgrind massif? I only just found out about it.
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<chromatic> I've run it a couple of times, but I'm not a thread person, so I don't really know how to use it.
<chromatic> I do love Valgrind and Callgrind.
<lathos> It's not a thread thing, it's more of a heap profiler. May be handy with GC leak detection.
<chromatic> I've found the gc-debug runcore good at that.
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<svnbotl> r26325 | chromatic++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [PMC] Removed a few unnecessary STRING allocations within CodeString's emit().
<svnbotl> : This improves the performance of this METHOD by around 5%, but it has the nice
<svnbotl> : effect of reducing GC time by the same amount (at least going by the p6rx
<svnbotl> : tests).
<svnbotl> : The fewer PObjs we create, the faster we go.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26325
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<jrt4> Before I post this as a bug, will someone make sure I'm not being stupid ... I'm looking at fixup_unpack() in packfile.c at switch (entry->type) -- the docs (pdd13) say "0x01 - Subroutine fixup", however gdb, and enum_fixup_t both have entry->type at 2 for sub fixups. Are the docs wrong? 
<lathos> If so then docs/parrotbyte.pod:169 is also wrong.
<jrt4> Ah ... they must have added in enum_fixup_none since the docs were written.
<lathos> Dunno, the docs look newer. Certainly file it as a bug.
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<jrt4> Done ... Is there any way to keep rt from collapsing the whitespace in the bugs I email in? Does it take HTML <code> || <pre> tags?
<Tene> chromatic: thank you for comments.
<chromatic> Glad to help.
<chromatic> It's really minor stuff.
<Tene> Yes, but coding style guidelines make me comfortable.
<chromatic> They make bugs easier to spot too.
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<Coke> jrt4: for anything where you care about whitespace, send it as an attachment.
<Coke> (like, code.)
<Coke> chromatic++ # code reviews.
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<svnbotl> r26326 | fperrad++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [codingstd]
<svnbotl> : C parentheses
<svnbotl> r26327 | fperrad++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [Lua]
<svnbotl> : now works without --no-gc
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26327
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<svnbotl> r26328 | coke++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [t]
<svnbotl> : ' isn't a quote delimiter in tcl, so this test would have always failed.
<svnbotl> : fperrad++ # I didn't even know this file was in the repo.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26328
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<cognominal> I got lexical self working...
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<particle> cognominal++
<cognominal> waiting for someone interested in my patches...
<cognominal> I guess with heredoc and postcircumfixed pairs, we will be close to compile rakudo in rakudo
<cognominal> I am pissed off to see people still coding in pir.
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<pmichaud> cognominal: "pissed off"?  really?
<cognominal> well, it's about time for people to use parrot to code in HLLS
<kj> there seems to be something wrong with pbc_to_exe; parrot bails out when I run an application in my language (the tutorial language I wrote)
<Coke> kj: works fine for tcl.
<kj> cognominal: as long as there's no complete language, people might still be hesitant
<kj> coke: sure, some apps work fine
<Coke> cognominal: most of the people here are writing compilers, so...
<pmichaud> cognominal: so, how would you write the "substr" function in Perl 6 ?
<kj> but this app is rather big
<Coke> when you say *parrot* is bailing out, do you mean the compiled thing that is calling the parrot libraries?
<Coke> pmichaud: hey... can I trouble you to look at something in tcl for 5 minutes?
<kj> coke: I create an executable, squaak.exe in my case, and it just stops
<pmichaud> coke: sure
<kj> i just get a new prompt
<cognominal> Coke: I want people to start to play with HLLs written with parrot.
<cognominal> in fact, I wanted to use rakudo, not so much modifying it.
<pmichaud> cognominal: we're getting there, albeit slowly
<cognominal> btw, I have noted that people can't get used to drop parentheses in conditionals. grammar.pg was full of them.
<cognominal> not that it hurts
<kj> you mean actions.pm?
<cognominal> oops
<cognominal> yes
<pmichaud> it doesn't hurt, and in many ways I think the parens are more readable
<kj> well I have no problem with that. but I'm not a Perl programmer, so I Just Don't Know anything else
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<svnbotl> r26329 | coke++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [tcl]
<svnbotl> : Add a failing test for {*} that works in tcl 8.5
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26329
<particle> kj: you're on windows, right? after your command, try echo %ERRORLEVEL%
<particle> see  if there's a segfault
<particle> cognominal: i don't see your patches hitting the mailing list
<particle> maybe my mail client dropped them
<particle> cognominal: where are you submitting patches? parrotbug@parrotcode.org? rakudobug@perl.org?
<skids> cognominal: I'm more interested in coding in perl6 than working on parrot, frankly, but neither it nor pugs has async socket IO really working enough to start porting over Net:: stuff which is about the only part I can job-justify :-)
<skids> Glad to see Tene tackling it, wish I had more spare attention.
<kj> particle: good idea. it's some non-0 value indeed, so there's someting wrong.
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<cognominal> I had submitted a patch to parrotbug@parrotcode.org
<svnbotl> r26330 | coke++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [tcl]
<svnbotl> : Now that 8.5.0 is released, when running the tcl tests, specifically
<svnbotl> : use the 8.5.0 tests, not HEAD.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26330
<cognominal> waiting it to get thru before submitting other
<cognominal> I did not know about rakudobug@perl.org
<particle> rakudobug@ is for rakudo patches. it automatically puts the bug in the rakudo queue
<Coke> (otherwise a bugadmin has to move the tickets around, which is doable, but time consuming.)
<Coke> s/time/tuit/
* davidfetter wonders where he can find a gift pack of tuits
<davidfetter> the round ones are best
<Coke> hurm. if all my user callable subs in tcl have a "&" prefix, there's really no reason to keep all my helper methods in another namespace. I could just keep them sans sigil. (or with a different sigil)
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<svnbotl> r26331 | coke++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [tcl]
<svnbotl> : When running tcl's test suite, use GC.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26331
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<nopaste> "pmichaud" at 76.183.97.54 pasted "partial trace for tcl" (8 lines) at http://nopaste.snit.ch/12490
<particle> coke: tcl only fails 5 subtests on win32 now
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<svnbotl> r26332 | coke++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [tcl]
<svnbotl> : pmichaud++ # figuring out where this was falling down.
<svnbotl> : Re-implement a workaround for a failing test. (At one point, :slurpy
<svnbotl> : here always provided us with a TclList: when it does again, this hack
<svnbotl> : can be removed.)
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26332
<pmichaud> need an RT ticket for :slurpy, I think.
* particle thinks of things that are slow: glaciers, global warming, tcl's test suite
<avar> Actually some icefalls are a lot faster than 
<avar> ..tcl;)
<particle> rats. i don't see a way to specify which pages firefox should load from commandline
<Coke> tcl is invoking a LOT of opcodes.
<Coke>  seriously, speed updates welcome. =-)
<Coke> I would love to have more people hacking on partcl.
<cotto_work> how much of the schedule for YAPC::NA and the subsequent hackathon is known?
* davidfetter wonders whether his talk got accepted
<Coke> I would expect: http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/talks to show me when the proposals are due.
<davidfetter> see, that would make sense and help people.
<Coke> seen jmcadams?
<purl> jmcadams was last seen on #catalyst 2 days and 14 hours ago, saying: will try to get one together... no promises though... i'm running way behind on everything right now :(  [Mar  9 20:01:43 2008]
<Coke> particle: are you sure that's how those tests would output in tclsh8.5 on windows?
<particle> no
<particle> they're not testing against tclsh8.5 anyway
<Coke> no, but they're supposed to behave *just like* 8.5
<particle> ok, well then the expected output was wrong anyway
<particle> tcl?
<purl> tcl is http://www.tcl.tk/ or TCL7::TCL8 as perl4::perl5 or possibly partcl. or http://rt.perl.org/rt3/NoAuth/parrot/List.html?Field=Lang&Value=tcl or segfaulting parrot since 2001. or  the canary in the mine shaft, as far as parrot is concerned. or http://www.tcl.fr/
<svnbotl> r26333 | particle++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [tcl] fix some test portability problems leading to windows failures
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26333
* particle downloads activetcl
* Coke muahahahas.
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<Coke> I think tcl is failing 2 tests on non-windows now.
<particle> ok, it's failing two on windows, too
<particle> and one occasionally
<particle> *one more
<Coke> woz the other one?
<Coke> lsort is passing everything here; but it's got the continuation issue.
<particle> here too
<particle> t/cmd_error.t reports failures occasionally when run in make test, but 'prove t/cmd_error.t' never gets erros
<Coke> huh.
<particle> it's from some wonky c code somewhere
<particle> i used to get these problems with imcc tests
<particle> chromatic and andy went over the imcc source, and the problems disappeared
<particle> sic em!
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<particle> c:\usr\local\parrot\trunk\languages\tcl>\usr\tcl\bin\tclsh85
<particle> % puts [pwd]
<particle> C:/usr/local/parrot/trunk/languages/tcl
<particle> so, i can change t/cmd_pwd.t to use File::Spec::Unix->canonpath( getcwd );
<particle> then the test will fail, but the expected output is correct
<particle> should i mark the test TODO, or let it fail?
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<Coke> If you can conditionally TODO it, that'd be good.
<particle> can do
<svnbotl> r26334 | particle++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [tcl] tchsh likes unix slashies, even on windows
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26334
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<svnbotl> r26335 | particle++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [rakudo] remove accidentally committed test code by duff
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26335
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<Andy> ehich tests?
<Andy> What did we do?  Were we good?  Hooray for us!
<cognominal> nope, a spare 'say'
<particle> andy: there's some funny business with tcl pmcs on win32
<particle> they could use a good going-over
<Andy> specific file?
<particle> when i run make test, i get occasional erros in t/cmd_error.t
<Andy> Well, I can't dig right now.
<Andy> maybe a splint run would do you good.
<Andy> lemme at least compile tcl and see if anything leaps out.
<Coke> pmichaud++
<pmichaud> ...what did I do?  ;-)
* pmichaud thinks that coke is throwing out random karma
<particle> silence is golden
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<Coke> ah, that was for your eyes earlier today.
<Coke> will be happy to karma you again if you can fix the remaining failure in t/tcl_misc.t =-)
<pmichaud> karma pmichaud
<purl> pmichaud has karma of 1059
<pmichaud> I could TODO the test :-)
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<Coke> tbbthp.
<davidfetter> oi, ambs 
<ambs> Hi, davidfetter 
* davidfetter recently back from .pt :)
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<davidfetter> (fsvo "recently")
<ambs> davidfetter: and you didn't visit me? :-P
<ambs> :D
<davidfetter> sorry. where are you?
<ambs> Braga
<ambs> somewhere in the north
<davidfetter> ah. i was in lisbon
<davidfetter> got to talk to lisbon.pm :)
<davidfetter> is there a braga.pm ?
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<ambs> yes, second biggest perl monger group in Portugal, I must say
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<davidfetter> :)
<ambs> hmms... my parrot is failing a lot of tests :-/
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<ambs> Failed 3/561 test programs. 8/11196 subtests failed.
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<davidfetter> that's not too awful
* ambs pokes svnbotl
<svnbotl> r26336 | ambs++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : Copied some code from readline.pm to gmp.pm to detect libgmp with macports.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26336
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<ambs> how I missed these lines :)
<particle> wow! a commit from ambs.
<particle> glad to have you back :)
<ambs> thanks :D
<pmichaud> ambs++ # yay!
<Coke> ambs?
<purl> ambs is, like, Alberto Simoes, one of the organizers of YAPC::EU::2005 and available at mailto:ambs@cpan.org
<ambs> hmms.. these errors are usual?
<ambs> # dyld: Symbol not found: _pio_stdio_layer
<ambs> #   Referenced from: /Users/ambs/Projects/parrot/./t/src/io_19
<ambs> #   Expected in: dynamic lookup
<ambs> # 
<ambs> COKE!!
* Coke finally makes the connection between committer ambs and Alberto.
<Coke> ~~
<Coke> Ola, ambs.
<ambs> Hello, Coke.
<ambs> Trying to get back :)
<particle> coke: tell me the phone call is tied to UTC
<Coke> particle: yes.
<Coke> I think we have one more hour.
<Coke> which means my alert messags are finally going to be timely since DST ended last time.
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<pmichaud> phone is in 39mins
<pmichaud> I will miss it, as I will be off having wedding photos taken :-)
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<Coke> barney: hio.
<ambs> pmichaud: who's wedding?
<barney> hi there
<purl> niihau, barney.
<pmichaud> ambs:  mine :-)
<ambs> pmichaud: and you are here in your wedding?
<ambs> Congratulations, by the way :-D
<pmichaud> no, the wedding itself will be on Friday.  We're doing photos today.
<pmichaud> and thanks.
<barney> How about a Parrot release name as a wedding present?
<ambs> hehehe
<pmichaud> for those who are wondering, Paula and I have been together for quite a while but never got married for tax/estate reasons.  But we've decided to go ahead and bite the bullet on the taxes/estates.
<pmichaud> er, "never got legally married"
<ambs> pmichaud: Paula is (also) a Portuguese name, btw
<Tene> How married did you get, then?
<Tene> Any parroters near SF, btw?
<parrot-poke> Im near SF
<parrot-poke> more of a groupie at this point
<Tene> I'll be in SF in a couple of weeks.  Might have time to meet someone for dinner.
<svnbotl> r26337 | ambs++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : Not sure of this fix, but one more test passing (test 16 from t/src/io.t)
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26337
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<Coke> IO PEN ING!
<cognominal> Paula is French too, but not too common
<barney> Paula is German too
<ambs> damn :)
<Coke> AIGH. tcl 8.5.1 is out.
* particle has tcl 8.5.1.0 installed :)
<ambs> 8.4 here :-P
* Coke builds 8.5.1
* ambs makes perl6
<svnbotl> r26338 | bernhard++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : #41237: [TODO] PMC Class name IDs will require a dot in front
<svnbotl> : Avoid deprecated PIR syntax
<svnbotl> : Some beautifications
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26338
<ambs> beautifications++
<ambs> dinner &
<Coke> gah. had a tcl8.5 alpha release in /usr/local; built tlch8.5.1 locally; ran ./tclsh8.5 ; guess which tcl library i was using...
<Tene> The right one?
<purl> the right one is the one where you control the box :)
<Tene> purl: forget the right one
<purl> Tene: I forgot right one
<Coke> anyone want to know how much slower partcl is than tclsh8.5.1 ?
<Coke> running, say, t/cmd_expr.t
<Coke> anyone? =-)
<Coke> about 3000 times slower. =-)
<davidfetter> d'oh
<Coke> 1m27.493s vs. 0.030s
<Coke> (and I don't even *pass* all those tests.)
<svnbotl> r26339 | bernhard++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : #51662: [TODO] Remove 'classname' rule in imcc.y
<svnbotl> : Expect changed error message after 'classname' has been removed.
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26339
<Coke> (even worse on something like examples/bench.tcl ; tclsh does it in half the time of the cmd_expr.t, parrot was up to 4.5 minutes when I killed it.
* ambs fg
<ambs> Coke: that are bad news, right?
<svnbotl> r26340 | bernhard++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : #51662: [TODO] Remove 'classname' rule in imcc.y
<svnbotl> : Avoid deprecated PIR syntax
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26340
<Coke> it's SLOOOOW.
<Coke> insanely slow.
<Coke> perhaps If I blog about it, I can shame mdiep into coming back!
<ambs> :D
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<particle> different TAP::Parser?
<ambs> no, different architecture, and different messages in the test accordingly to it
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<Coke> AHAHAHAHAAH
<Coke> the script examples/bench.tcl runs about 2**16 times slower in parrot than on tclsh8.5
<davidfetter> ouch
<Coke> 64366 times, but damn.
<particle> i bet it'd be easy to get an order of magnitude improvement there somewhere
<particle> not that you'd notice.
<particle> try an optimised build, for giggles
<Coke> I can't wait another 23 minutes to run the damn thing at the moment. :|
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<Coke> if there would be that much of a speedup, why ever NOT build optimised?
<particle> because you need to debug
<Coke> that shouldn't be the default, should it? =-)
<Coke> we are gonna have to flip that bit at some point.
<particle> for sure it'll be optimized by default at parrot 0.50.0
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<particle> that's our 'major subsystems implementation complete' release
<Coke> ok. the first test, which was 2916 times slower with default build, is only 1752 times slower with optimized build.
<particle> there you go. that's an order of magnitude, base 2
<Coke> if you squint really hard, yes. =-)
<Coke> so, I should be aiming to get unoptimized partcl to run only single digit times faster than tclsh8.5
<Coke> and then count on parrot for the rest. =-)
<particle> perfect. only 15 oom to go
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<cognominal> I am back to my old question, what happens if your Perl6 class has the same name as a pmc?
<cognominal> I want to extend the Hash class...
<pmichaud> for the moment, it has to have a different name
<pmichaud> however, the way that protoobjects are set up, that's not too much of a problem
<pmichaud> i.e., Perl6Hash (in Parrot) can be held as the 'Hash' entry in the root namespace and report itself back as 'Hash'
<pmichaud> (actually,  %hash.WHAT gives back the Protoobject, which can report whatever it wants :-)
<cognominal> well, but the method I add to the namespace hash are not visible
<cognominal>  rakudo  -e 'my %h; for  %h.HOW.methods { say $_   } '  # uses the pmc iterator to list me the methods of the protoobject!!
<cognominal> but no the keys method!
<cognominal> ... I added
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<svnbotl> r26341 | petdance++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : localizing and consting
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26341
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<skids> nopaste?
<purl> well, nopaste is at http://nopaste.snit.ch/ (ask TonyC for new channels) or http://rafb.net/paste or http://paste.husk.org/ or http://poundperl.pastebin.com/ or http://paste.scsys.co.uk/ or don't bother me while I'm eating
<svnbotl> r26342 | petdance++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : consting and annotating
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26342
<nopaste> "skids" at 71.233.204.100 pasted "parrot build warnings and failure on PA-RISC linux" (71 lines) at http://nopaste.snit.ch/12492
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<svnbotl> r26343 | petdance++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : reflagged a PMC
<svnbotl> r26344 | petdance++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : reflagged a PMC
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26344
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<jrt4> Anyone know offhand how to use gdb to scan for a byte pattern in a specified address range? Like if the heap for the parrot process ran from 08050000-0827d000, and I wanted to have gdb return the first byte it found in that range that equals 0xa17ad376 ... is there a command to do this sort of thing?
<jrt4> obviously the byte doesn't equal 0xa17ad376 ... I mean the address of the first byte where it finds the match :)
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<cotto> FREEZE_ASCII in src/pmc_freeze.c seems to have bitrotted to the point where it breaks the build process if set to 1
<cotto> Is this worth filing a bug report over?
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<svnbotl> r26345 | duff++ | trunk:
<svnbotl> : [rakudo] rough cut implementation of auto-{increment,decrement} for Perl6Str
<svnbotl> diff: http://parrotvm.org/svn/parrot/revision/?rev=26345
<PerlJam> okay ... what's the way to add a ticket to RT?
<PerlJam> and what's the practical difference between "new" and "open"  (I just accidentally changed a ticket's status from new to open)
<Tene> purl: parrotbug
<purl> parrotbug is mailto:parrotbug@parrotcode.org or http://svn.perl.org/parrot/trunk/docs/submissions.pod
<Tene> That's how I do it.
<PerlJam> yeah, I just thought there was a webby interface too.
<PerlJam> anyway, I need some sleep
* PerlJam &