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<Coke> Hello, everybody.
<barney> Hi
<Coke> We're a bit discombobulated, as pmichaud is currently on stage, and chromatic and I are in teh audience.
* particle heckles pmichaud remotely
<Coke> There is a hackathon this thursday & friday. (mainly thursday).
<Coke> had a lot of people (~dozen) show up at the BOF yesterday, some will be at the hackathon.
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<Coke> anyone remotely who wants to start looking at categorizing todos for newbie hackers, that'd help a lot.
<Coke> particle: , you have a report?
<Coke> anyone have a report? =)
<particle> i do, hang on
<particle> first, allison:
<particle> - I've mainly spent the week preparing talks for various conferences.
<particle> - Useful conversations with the implementors of JRuby and IronRuby on
<particle> Sunday.
<particle> - Looking forward to the hackathon on Thursday and Friday.
<particle> Question: particle, are there any tasks you'd like to suggest for the
<particle> hackathon?
<particle> i'll answer allison's question later
<Coke> Note: any hackathon notes, please put on the wiki. =-)
<particle> now, mine:
<particle> parrot:
<particle> ~ getting back on pdd15 -- converted class pmc api tests to pir
<particle> ~ fixed a few imcc bugs
<particle> ~ still hunting the free_list segfault, i've got ron++ helping me out now
<particle> perl6:
<particle> ~ worked on adding some tests from pugs and getting them passing
<particle> ~ modified the grammar to support types in signatures and var decls
<particle> ~ added 'make Makefile' to perl6 makefile, regenerates just that makefile
<particle>   i plan to do the same to the main makefile, making regeneration easier
<particle> .end
<particle> coke: that was basically going to be my answer to allison :)
<barney> I fiddled with Parrot::Test. 
<barney> Got me two new books on ANTLR and Common Lisp.
<barney> .eor
<jonathan_> I've been somewhat struggling for energy and motivation of late. Not Parrot-specific, just generally. Following the mailing list and popping up now and then. Hoping for a response from Allison on my thoughts with regards to the direction of PMCProxy. Hopefully this week is better, but I've gotta go half way down the country again this weekend...on the hateful UK railway system.
<jonathan_> .eor
<Coke> anyone else?
<Coke> I'll go:
<Coke> I spent most of the week working on my presentation; will spend most of the hackathon working on moving some design docs to launchpad.net
<Coke> and in general improving the state of the documentation and possibly tests for driving perl6 improvements.
<Coke> and I got a code monkey at the conference.
<Coke> .eor
<Coke> Any follow, questions, etc.?
<particle> I WANT PDD15 FOR NEXT RELEASE.
<Coke> I agree. those are some of the tests I'll be working on for perl6 improvement.
<particle> great. i'll be working on tests and implementation.
<jonathan_> particle: Including inheritance from PMCs?
<particle> jonathan: if possible, yes
<Coke> perl6 needs that, like, yesterday. =-)
<particle> indeed. perl6 would progress nicely with the new oo model
<jonathan_> I'll see if PDD17 has got any more specifics on how that's going to be achieved.
<Coke> jonathan_: thank you.
<jonathan_> Last time I looked the specification wasn't very...specified. :-)
<jonathan_> Maybe that's the academic in me coming out.
<Coke> if you notice a lack in the spec, for now, open a ticket on it.
<Coke> (and those'll eventually get cataloged in launchpad)
* jonathan_ needs to find out about this launchpad thingy.
<particle> jonathan_: writing tests that exercise the api should help you find the corners that need sweeping
<Coke> launchpad.net
<Coke> Is there a standard channel for chat during hacakthon? #parrot? #hackathon?
<jonathan_> It'd be nice to have the QUESTIONS section in PDD17 itself answered.
<particle> #hackathon
<Coke> ok.
<jonathan_> And the "Interaction between PMCs and high-level objects" section contains little.
<Coke> so we'll see you all there on thursday.
<jonathan_> I think I've implemented as much, from that angle, as PDD17 has actually specified.
<Coke> I think everyone at the con is having fun. hopefully everyone else is, too.
<Coke> jonathan_: ++
<jonathan_> The thing is, that really doesn't get us far.
<jonathan_> Maybe I should just do what I did with roles. Write a recommendation for the spec, implement it and see what reaction it gets.
<Coke> ... sounds plausible. =-)
<jonathan_> Just don't want to tread on allison++'s toes.
<jonathan_> I get the feeling I've already taken PMCProxy beyond/away from what was originally intended.
<Coke> jonathan_: will you be available for hackathon on thursday?
<jonathan_> What kinda times?
<jonathan_> I'm tied up Thursday evening.
<Coke> Iunno. 9-5 CST.
<jonathan_> Anyone know the offset from BST?
<jonathan_> But I guess I'll be about for a few hours of that.
<Coke> it's one earlier than EST.
<jonathan_> I'll try and hang about on #hackathon
<Coke> danke dankel.
<particle> i'll be around for some hackathon time for sure
<Coke> EOSKETCH
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<Coke> updated http://dev.perl.org/perl6/people.html
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<particle> coke: you may want to move ann to old guard, and put out a request for a summarizer
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