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<chromatic> Okay, who's here?
<pmichaud> here
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<particle> i also
<allison> and me
<Andy> Me.
<Andy> Allison: I'm not sure I like you being the OSCON organizer.  You are far less available for random yapping!
<chromatic> Alright, alphabetical order... AWAY
<chromatic> allison
<Andy> Andy
<Andy> Arnold
<Andy> Arvelicious
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<allison> not pre typed
<allison> - I've been the OSCON organizer most of the week
<allison> - We had a very productive hackathon on Saturday
<allison> - Worked through the connections between the Perl 6 and Parrot object metamodels
<allison> - And made more progress on Parrot's new metamodel implementation 
<allison> EOR
<chromatic> Andy
<Andy> oooh, I get what you meant now w/the alpha order.
<Andy> OK, not pre-typed
<Andy> - Worked w/Josh Hoblitt to get stack dumps. ROCK.
<Andy> - All files that get compiled into Parrot should now come under the watchful eye of the headerizer.
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<Andy> - Working to sniff out attributes at configure time.  I had been working on this before, but it got stalled.
<Andy> - Did little at OSCON Parroty, other than my yearly sponge bath by chromatic.
<Andy> EOR
<chromatic> I removed some suck from the garbage collector.
<Andy> chromatic++
<chromatic> I'm reviewing Max Mohun's "Build me a compiler" toolkit.  It's close to checkin, though probably first as Perl code, later Parrot.
<chromatic> I fixed a couple of memory leaks.
<chromatic> I'm now certain that the Tcl trouble is in src/hll.c, so I'm looking in to a heavy rewrite there.
<chromatic> jhorwitz, how's mod_parrot?
<jhorwitz> it compiles w/o warnings against HEAD
<jhorwitz> still some deprected ops in the guts that i'm working out with pm and particle
<jhorwitz> all tests pass, and PIR handlers work perfectly
<jhorwitz> i have perl6 and nqp to the point where they're loading and compiling, but having some issues calling the subs.  working that out right now.
<jhorwitz> once that works, we'll have our first HLL working under mod_parrot, though fairly simple.
<jhorwitz> EOR
<chromatic> particle
<particle> ~ many real life conversations on parrot-related stuff, some pairing with jhorwitz++ on mod_parrot, and a busy hackathon
<particle> ~ added mark glines as a committen
<particle> ~ i've now turned my eyes on pmc2c to see if Storable will speed it up over Data::Dumper
<particle> ~ comment: deprecated ops should warn
<particle> .end
<chromatic> pmichaud
<pmichaud> * Removed compilers/past/ and compilers/post/ from repo.
<pmichaud> * Fixed some error messages in bitwise string opcodes
<pmichaud> * Cleaned up description of push_eh in exceptions pdd
<pmichaud> * Added PCT into build cycle.
<pmichaud> * Refactored PAST/POST inside of PCT
<pmichaud> ** Eliminate requirement for Parrot-specific code in PAST
<pmichaud> ** Moved opcode details out of PAST->POST transformation
<pmichaud> * Added NQP initial commits, roadmap
<pmichaud> * Introduced a variety of folks to perl6/parrot compiler
<pmichaud> ** Applied patches from Colin Kuskie (perlDreamer++)
<pmichaud> * Discussed perl6 object model requirements with allison
<pmichaud> * Fixed handling of arrays in   'for (1,2,3) { ... }'
<pmichaud> EOR
<chromatic> ptc
<Andy> pmichaud also did a great talk at OSCON
<pmichaud> oh yes -- talks at oscon, and hallway discussions galore
<pmichaud> (oscon was very busy.)
<Andy> pmichaud++
<pmichaud> I also broke my laptop, and repaired it yesterday :-)
<chromatic> No ptc... how about tewk?
<pmichaud> (I also reviewed Coke++'s CodeString PMC implementation)
<chromatic> Oh yeah, I restructured some of the PMCs to help with mark ordering problems.
<chromatic> That looks like the commit reports.
<chromatic> Are there any questions?
<chromatic> Here's one:  How does COW work and why doesn't COW work?
<allison> what level of detail are you looking for in the answer?
<allison> 'cause it sounds like a "dig into the code" kind of question
<particle> how do i install a default exception handler to catch 'real_exception's of type 'E_WARN' ?
<chromatic> Some sort of design document.
<allison> particle: as far as I know, you can't with the current prototype implementation
<particle> that's what i feared :(
<allison> chromatic: I'll add the question to the PMC PDD
<particle> c: docs/glossary.pod gets closest to a description. ain't that scary?
<chromatic> It looks like one of those optimizations that doesn't work in all cases.
<chromatic> Any other questions?
<particle> what features do we target for this release, pmichaud?
<particle> anything in particular?
<pmichaud> good question.  I'm targeting ast/pct myself
<pmichaud> pdd15 objects would seem like the most important target at the moment
<particle> has anybody verified jonathan's claim that he's fixed up pdd15 implementation? i haven't yet.
<pmichaud> I will probably see about converting PGE to pdd15 objects in the next week or so
<pmichaud> that will be a pretty good test
<allison> he fixed defining methods from PIR
<allison> I checked the tests on Saturday
<Andy> I've finally got COW working so that you can't pass in a NULL on it.
<allison> defining vtable overrides from PIR still doesn't work
<pmichaud> ouch, that's a blocker
<allison> yes
<allison> does anyone know if he had some code outstanding on that?
<allison> or if I can dive into it without walking over his work?
<pmichaud> I don't know either way, allison
<allison> ok. I'll look into it
<chromatic> Is anyone blocking on anything?
<allison> when I looked on Saturday it seemed he had added some code for vtable overrides, and it just wasn't complete
<pmichaud> I'm blocking only on hours-per-day
<chromatic> It sounds like we're done for this week.  Shall we adjourn?
<pmichaud> seconded.
<pmichaud> thanks for handling the meeting again, chromatic 
<Andy> ok meeting time.
<Andy> (work meeting)
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