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<chromatic> Let's begin.
<chromatic> Allison?
<allison> still typing, but...
<allison> - Fixed MMD subsystem to work with new metamodel.
<allison> - Added additional support for type IDs, to support MMD.
<allison> - Changed get_class to return PMCNULL instead of throwing an exception when a class isn't found.
<allison> _ Updated lots of tests to use the new metamodel.
<allison> - Filled in a few missing OO features in new metamodel.
<allison> - Found and fixed a few (unrelated) GC bugs shaken out by the new implementation.
<allison> - Found a few others not fixed yet.
<allison> - With the GC bugs, we'll be delaying 0.5.0 until the Nov. release.
<allison> - But will roll in the PDD 15 branch immediately after the Oct. release.
<allison> EOR
<chromatic> barney?
<barney> Relicensed Parrot m4 from GPL to Artistic 2.0
<barney> Started to look into 'languages/scheme'
<barney> .eor
<chromatic> I fixed several failing tests in the PDD 15 branch.
<chromatic> I also fixed some problems with *ManagedStruct, but I think I ran into an old bug there... if OrderedHash cloning works correctly, we may get that fix for free.
<chromatic> That's it for me.
<chromatic> leo?
<chromatic> particle?
<particle> ~ updated some pdd15oo tests, more to go. progress has been quick today with pmichaud and allison
<particle> ~ we *may* have somebody starting a prolog hll on parrot, will know more next week
<particle> ~ forwarded our amazon web services contact info to jesse so he can coordinate the build/smoke farm effort
<particle> gearing up for the exceptions implementation
<particle> .end
<chromatic> pmichaud?
<pmichaud> - mostly worked on pge in pdd15oo
<pmichaud> - as of this morning, all pge tests pass in pdd15oo
<pmichaud> - I'm cleaning up a couple of pge-related items in other tests (tge, past)
<pmichaud> - then I'll turn away from pdd15oo for a bit to finish the ast pdd
<pmichaud> eor
<chromatic> Did I miss anyone?
<chromatic> Let's go to questions then.  pmichaud?
<pmichaud> two questions
<pmichaud> 1.  Do roles work properly in pdd15oo yet -- i.e., can I start using them in pge code?
<allison> high-level roles, or C-level roles?
<pmichaud> high-level roles
<particle> pir roles work
<allison> yes, they work
<pmichaud> okay.  that may partially answer question #2, which is
<allison> I can add more extensive test cases for roles today, to cover all the edge cases
<pmichaud> what's the proper way to import methods from one namespace to another?
<pmichaud> or from one class to another?
<allison> importing subs in namespaces is well-defined, but methods in classes isn't
<allison> how do you want it to work?
<pmichaud> I don't know yet
<pmichaud> naively I want it to work similar to the way importing subs works, except using add_method
<pmichaud> anyway, I have my answer, which is that we haven't defined it yet :-)
<pmichaud> eoq
<allison> we could modify namespace's 'export_to' so it knows to do it by class object for namespaces that have class objects
<particle> you don't always want that, do you?
<particle> can a namespace have a sub and a class with a method of the same name?
<pmichaud> I think it would also need to check that the thing is actually a method
<allison> particle: not currently, no, the name is either a sub or a method
<particle> ok
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<allison> pmichaud: it should probably start there, checking if it's a method, and then look to see if it has a class object to store it in
<allison> I'll look into that
<allison> (I think that wraps up that question for now)
<pmichaud> yes, I'm done with my questions.
<chromatic> Is anyone blocking on anything?
<particle> i'm trying to reduce my context switching, so i want to get pdd15oo done before turning to exceptions
<particle> so, i'm sorta blocking (though self-inforced)
<pmichaud> I agree -- the sooner we can move pdd15oo back into trunk, the better I'll feel about doing any other major code changes in trunk
<chromatic> Looks like that's a week away.
<allison> the let's do exceptions as a branch
<allison> because I do need to start on it if we're going to hit the end of the month
<allison> (and, I don't like making changes in trunk just before a release anyway)
<allison> I think we can get pdd15oo passing all it's tests today
<chromatic> I'm not entirely comfortable about branching from trunk now, merging from pdd15oo to trunk, and then merging from trunk to exceptions.
<particle> okay, let's wait until after today to create yet another branch
<allison> chromatic: I'll manage the merges
<barney> or branch from pdd15oo
<particle> we're down from 300+ to 40+ tests failing just today in pdd15oo
<allison> it's not a big deal
<particle> if we get delegate and pmcproxy tests passing, we'll be really close
<allison> particle: yeah, we're almost done
<particle> delegate and *freeze tests...
<particle> yep, we are!
<particle> hopefully, we'll get oo and exceptions into the november release, and call it 0.5.0
<particle> oh! one comment:
<particle> now that we have published milestones (and dates, even) let's put release numbers to those milestones
<particle> it'll be some nice data to add to the roadmap
<particle> i'll prod coke about it.
<allison> particle: good idea
<chromatic> Is there anything else?
<particle> chromatic: orderedhash cloning doesn't work correctly for me
<allison> chromatic: that's the GC bug I mentioned this morning
<chromatic> Me neither, and I think it's the source of some NCI problems.
<chromatic> If someone were to write tests for it, I'd poke at it.
<chromatic> Shall we call it a week?
<chromatic> We'll announce New Contributors Day soon for Saturday, and hopefully will get some attention.
<particle> it's a week.
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