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<pmichaud> I may or may not make it to #parrotsketch today
<pmichaud> I have little to report, anyway -- other events continue to eat time :-(
<rdice> Sorry to hear. :-(
<pmichaud> I'm expecting it to improve (but then I always expect it to improve :-=)
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<Coke> hello, folks.
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<chromatic> Good day everyone.
<Coke> chromatic, should I arm wrestle you for it?
<chromatic> Go ahead.
<Coke> Ok. patrick is out for PS today, and ISTR barney has sent his off to particle. Why don't we let particle go first with his stored reports.
<particle> hiyo, pasting...
<particle> barney:
<particle>  - Applied some patches
<particle> - Added the PHPArray PMC to the standard Plumhead build.
<particle> - Added the PMC tests from cotto to the standard Plumhead tests.
<particle>  - Got a new notebook and ran into problems with Parrot_Test.t.
<particle>   kraai++ for fixing.
<particle> - removed unneeded type names from PIR, RT#42769,
<particle>   and caused a slight mess with error.t
<particle> - Tried to beautify imcc.y
<particle> .end
<particle> ~ volunteered to oversee google summer of code for parrot/rakudo this year
<particle> things are just starting up, i'll keep everyone up to date on the latest goings-on
<particle> if you have project ideas or would like to be a mentor, please sign up
<particle> http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?gsoc2008
<particle> .end
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<Coke> Thanks. (And thanks for volunteering for soc. =-)
<Coke> spinclad?
<Coke> or not. =-)
<Coke> allison?
<allison> - Launched the Security PDD. Please review and comment as you have time.
<allison> - Updated the PMC implementation branch from trunk, and modified new code that was added to the trunk to the PDD 17 style.
<allison> - Working now on segfault report from particle for Perl 6 in PMC branch.
<allison> - Otherwise, the PMC branch is ready for language testing, will plan to merge it back into trunk next weekend.
<allison> EOR
<chromatic> I believe I've fixed the .HLL problem with disappearing namespace entries and the like.
<chromatic> I also fixed a strange memory corruption error with the clone opcode.  It shouldn't leak memory either.  It did, even with the destroy code in there earlier.
<chromatic> I did some minor cleanups in a few files, but nothing big.
<chromatic> I'm going to add one more feature to the PMC parser so that we can convert most other PMCs to use auto-generated structs.
<chromatic> .end
<Coke> I did some minor updates to tcl, minor rt updates. 
<Coke> .end
<Coke> cognominal ?
<cognominal> yes?
<Coke> heh. Forgot who was a commiter and who wasn't. I need a list. Oh wait, I have one. I need to *read* the list. =-)
<cognominal> I am not a commiter and I have a patch pending
<Coke> We'll make sure it gets reviewed.
<Coke> rgrjr?
<rgrjr> * tweaked some internal tools (pdump, pbc_header.pl).
<rgrjr> * read up on memory management.  still only slightly better clued.
<rgrjr> * chromatic's progress on GC bugs has helped Kea-CL greatly.  on the
<rgrjr>   other hand, i'm still getting similar problems, which are larger and
<rgrjr>   therefore harder to file reports on.
<rgrjr> .eor
<Coke> tene ?
<Tene> Absolutely nothing!  Detroit was far more distracting than I anticipated.
<Tene> I don't know anyone in Phoenix, so I'm hopeful about this week.
<Tene> .eor
<Coke> heh. tewk?
<Coke> I think that's all the committers that are about; anyone else have a report that I missed, any questions to queue up?
<Coke> I have a question for allison.
<allison> Oh, I have an item I forgot to mention.
<allison> (which I can phrase as a question)
<Coke> go ahead. =-)
<allison> I set up http://www.parrotblog.org this week, for parrot developers. Would anyone like an account?
<allison> If so, email me your gmail account (create one if you don't have one).
<Coke> Can I ha... oh, right. =-)
<Coke> How would you expect this to work with developers individual blogs, things aggregated in parrot, etc?
<allison> Okay, back to questions.
<allison> and, that's a question...
<Coke> er, in planet parrot.
<allison> I'm not doing aggregating, because I don't want to pull in developer's non-parrot posts
<allison> but, double-posting is fine
<Coke> Should I add it to planet parrot?
<allison> it'll even let you email in your posts
<allison> yah, that'd be good
<Coke> Ok. Taken as a todo.
<cotto_> I've requested commit access for working on plumhead.  How soon should I expect to hear back about that?
<Coke> whoops. I hadn't gotten past the email you sent on that. But everyone I would have mentioned it to is here. Give us a day to chew on it.
<cotto_> no problem
<Coke> allison: we had talked just before 0.5.3 about rolling back pdd17 into trunk; do you have an ETA on that? I know we wanted to ping HLL developers to check it out before you pulled the trigger...
<chromatic> If we can fix particle's segfault, she should be able to merge it very soon.
<allison> I just asked for HLL testing in my report today, I'll also mention it on the list
<allison> if all goes well, plan to merge it in on Saturday
<particle> fab
<particle> i'll be around this week for testing hlls
<allison> particle: excellent!
<Coke> (all goes well) fair enough.
<Coke> Anyone else have a question?
<rgrjr> I'm thinking of submitting a YAPC::NA talk proposal about how to use continuations etc. to do fancy control structures, but am worried that this is the wrong audience and/or old hat.  WDYT?
<allison> rgrjr: sounds like a great idea
<Coke> I would attend that talk. Does that help?
<allison> it's a useful concept in any language
<PerlJam> rgrjr: If I were attending YAPC::NA, I'd attend such a talk.
<Coke> I'll be at YAPC::NA, btw.
<rgrjr> Great; thanks for your support.  There is the ticklish issue of whether PCT supports what I am doing without it . . .
<cognominal> I must say that we have a french perl workshop in France at the end of may 30 and 31 if I recall, everyone is welcome to come to talk about anything Perl 6/Parrot
<PerlJam> rgrjr: Just because the ivory tower of #ps thinks it's old hat doesn't mean that there's not a whole bunch of parroteers or perl6ers that wouldn't benefit from it  :)
<Tene> I'm scheduled for an intro-level presentation on Parrot at Penguicon, in Detroit in April.
<allison> tene: great!
<rgrjr> cognominal:  not i; i'm taking too much time of this summer as it is.
<Coke> Anyone else have anything report-y or question-y ?
<chromatic> Are we on track for the next release?
<particle> if anyone could spare some tuits, we could have a yaml dumper for past quite easily
<particle> seems to me we're on track for a 0.6 if we get pdd17pmc merged
<Coke> I'd be happy to call the next release 0.6 then, ya.
<particle> ah... will pdd17pmc have any affect on freeze/thaw code?
<chromatic> It shouldn't.
<particle> fab.
<Coke> chromatic: I think the biggest thing for next release is the merge.
<allison> particle: yeah, we're keeping the structures the same, just generating them
<spinclad> (yaml dumper): and a developer or two eagerly awaiting!
<particle> the yaml dumper is very, very close to working.
<particle> just needs a few pir tuits to finish it off
<Coke> particle: I have some PIR tuits, as I'm going blind looking at tcl. Ping me after meeting.
<particle> hokay!
<Coke> I'll ping barney to make sure he's on track for the release, also.
<Coke> Anything else?
<PerlJam> isn't it traditional to ask about fun and blocking?  :)
<particle> blocking is rarely fun.
<Coke> I was waiting to make sure there were no more questions. =-)
<Coke> "what perljam said"
<Coke> ?
<allison> definitely having fun
<Coke> excellent.
<chromatic> I have more fun after I've fixed strange bugs than during the process of fixing them.
<Coke> If someone's not having fun, of course feel free to ping me privately if you don't want to drag it out here.
<Coke> chromatic: I'll try to find more strange bugs you can fix to make you happy, then.
<rgrjr> b
<particle> i'm swamped. no fun, that.
<Coke> Sadly, I can't manufacture tuits.
<particle> i feel like the u.s. dollar lately.
<Coke> alright. I think that's a wrap.
* particle hopes pdd17pmc will finally allow me to subclass Exporter PMC in pir
<particle> we'll get into that next week, after merge
<particle> cya
<allison> particle: it will, with a few updates to PMCProxy
<particle> \o/
<Coke> Ok. now I hesitate to say it's a wrap again. =-)
<allison> really, it's a wrap :)
<Coke> On the off chance it is, have a great week, see you all next tuesday if not before.
<Coke> ^_^
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