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<chromatic> Who's here?
<kj> kjs is here
* allison here
<Infinoid> I'm here
<allison> jerry won't be able to make it today, but sent a report
<chromatic> Let's begin then.  allison?
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<allison> - I'm working on the character sets PDD, just about ready to check it in.
<allison> - My Parrot talk at Microsoft yesterday went well. I also met with some people from their open source lab, including cotto.
<allison> EOR
<chromatic> barney?
<barney> Closed a couple of tickets.
<barney> Release of Parrot 0.6.0 is underway
<barney> .eor
<chromatic> I fixed a few bugs and closed several tickets.
<chromatic> I'm thinking about how to profile PIR; it's clear that we need this on the soon-ish.
<chromatic> cotto_work?
<chromatic> Infinoid?
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<Infinoid> - I'm consolidating the codingstd test infrastructure
<Infinoid> - I'll check that stuff in after today's release
<Infinoid> - I'm also working on applying codingstd tests to a larger subset of the codebase
<Infinoid> - for example, trailing_space.t now checks perl code, not just C.  thinking about doing .pir next
<Infinoid> 1;
<chromatic> Coke?
<Coke> Aside from "perpetually late to meetings", mainly working on getting tcl back on track at the moment.
<Coke> now targeting the release of 8.5.1 for features (as opposed to cvs HEAD)
<Coke> [return]
<chromatic> kj?
<kj> have been working on the PCT tutorial
<kj> 4 episodes have been published
<kj> first comments seem to be positive
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<kj> I think about 4 more before the case study language is fully implemented
<kj> .eor
<chromatic> pmichaud?
<chromatic> particle?
<Coke> particle is out. here's his report:
<Coke> ~ tpf has been accepted as a google summer of code organization --
<Coke> thanks to the hard work of a few dedicated folks
<Coke> ~ next comes hard work for even more folks, as we review and rank
<Coke> student applications
<Coke> ~ i created a DONORS file in the distribution to thank financial contributors
<Coke> ~ i'm hoping to get better donor info from tpf in the coming weeks
<Coke> good luck with the release!
<Coke> .end
<chromatic> Tene?
<chromatic> tewk?
<chromatic> Did I miss anyone?
<chromatic> Alright, question time then.
<chromatic> barney, do you need anything to get this release out?
<barney> co-maintainership to Parrot modules on PAUSE
<allison> you don't actually need that for the release
<barney> for BSCHMAL
<allison> someone with PAUSE membership can perform that step
<allison> but, we do have a request in to get you added
<allison> so you should be in by the next release you do
<allison> (unfortunately, it's not automated, so Andreas has to do it manually)
<barney> from pause_guide.pod I gathered that members of PARROTRE can grant co-maintainership,
<allison> no, unfortunately
<barney> which suffices for uploading
<allison> oh, you don't mean membership in PARROTRE
<barney> yep. just the right to upload
<allison> yes, we can assign you co-maintainer permissions, will do that now
<barney> cool
<cotto_work> quick question for c
<cotto_work> you mentioned I had commit bits last ps
<chromatic> yes
<cotto_work> when I tried to commit yesterday, I got denied
<chromatic> We close SVN for holidays.
<chromatic> Otherwise we'd commit drunk, and that's bad.
<chromatic> (I think we're waiting for your Evil Overlord's permission to contribute actually.)
<barney> You guys commit not being drunk?
<cotto_work> ok
<cotto_work> I won't have any big commits until then anyway
<allison> barney: done
<barney> tnx
<allison> cotto: you are officially a committer, but we can't turn on permissions until the legal stuff is sorted
<allison> cotto: it's not just PHPArray that's affected, but any commits, or even patches
<cotto_work> that clears that up
<chromatic> I have a question.  What do the rest of you think of adding Matt Kraai as a committer?
<cotto_work> from my understanding, anything I write during my time off is clean
* barney votes mkraii++
<allison> cotto: that's true from microsoft's perspective, but committers have additional requirements (we have to have a legal contributor agreement, and yours isn't legal until your employer agrees to it)
<cotto_work> fair enough
<cotto_work> should I avoid submitting patches in the mean time?
<allison> cotto: it shouldn't be more than a few weeks
<chromatic> patches should be fine, right?
<allison> cotto: we can't commit them, so, might as well
<allison> chromatic: nope, unfortunately
<allison> cotto: this might be a good time to learn about other aspects of the system
<cotto_work> yes
<allison> cotto: experiment with the compiler tools
<kj> read the tutorial ;-)
<allison> cotto: maybe even implement a tiny language for the experience
<cotto_work> someone should clobber this bug report: http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=51832
<chromatic> Any other comments on Matt Kraai?
<allison> chromatic: +1
<Coke> chromatic: I have nothing bad to say.
<cotto_work> there's plenty to learn about while the legal stuff get sorted out
<chromatic> Alright, are there any other questions?
<Coke> chromatic++ # getting folks to actually go through the queue.
<chromatic> Yeah, everybody close two tickets a week.
<Infinoid> I'm curious, why does RT take 10 hours to forward comments to the list?  and is it something fixable?
<Coke> we are now at 72 new, 739 open, and 95 stalled tickets.
<chromatic> Infinoid, I read your comments on the ticket before I did my debugging by the way.
<Infinoid> ok, was worried about wasting your time...
<chromatic> I'm more worried about not getting mail from RT than occasional duplicate debugging.
<Coke> To followup on particle's send a bit, I signed up as a mentor for SOC. Student applications are due by the end of the month. Tell your local PMs, spread the word to students.
<chromatic> Are there any other questions?
<Coke> Why is tcl so slow?
<chromatic> You're doing too much work.
<chromatic> I think that's it.  Talk to you all next week.
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<allison> Thanks c
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