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<Coke> Report:
<Coke> got macport for parrot updated to 0.5.2
<Coke> .
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<kj> nothing to report, except something I should have mentioned last week:
<kj> first draft of pdd29 on the compiler tools.
<kj> expect to have little time next few weeks
<kj> .eor
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<chromatic> Greetings all.
<rgrjr> howdy!
<Infinoid> hi!
<smash> hiya
<pmichaud> hello
<barney> hi
<chromatic> Shall we begin?
<chromatic> allison?
<allison> - Unfortunately, this hasn't been a very productive week for me.
<allison> - I gave a talk on Parrot at LUGRadio Live, which went well.
<allison> - Tomorrow is my last busy day, then I have 30 hours on a plane, then lots of development time.
<allison> EOR
<chromatic> barney?
<barney> Worked on removing PAST-pm
<barney> and Parrot/HLLCompiler.pbc
<barney> Applied a lot of patches from rotty
<barney> reserving a question
<barney> .eor
<chromatic> I fixed a couple of crashes (and potential crashes that I introduced).
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<chromatic> and I did some profiling and optimization.  Some of the optimizations need a lot more work, but we'll get three.
<chromatic> also there
<chromatic> Coke?
<Coke> my report was posted earlier.
<chromatic> Infinoid?
<Infinoid> * I'm making a concerted effort to figure out all the GC stuff.
<Infinoid> * Added a test, fixed a couple of minor things that came up.
<Infinoid> * Otherwise, I didn't really get much stuff checked in.
<Infinoid> * I'm a bit bogged down on the communication side of things... I have some catchup to do.
<Infinoid> 1;
<chromatic> particl[1e]?
<Infinoid> particle indicated he might be a bit late to PS
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<chromatic> pmichaud?
<pmichaud> * Added --encoding=fixed_8 encoding to HLLCompiler
<pmichaud> ** This enables NQP to compile Rakudo as fixed-length encodings (28% speed improvement)
<pmichaud> * Improved PAST::Block symbol table management
<pmichaud> * Refactored PAST::Var scope handling in PCT -- blocks can specify default 'scope' for PAST::Var nodes
<pmichaud> * Resolved problems with PAST compilation, closing RT #49758
<pmichaud> * Fixed a few makefile issues
<pmichaud> * Suggested some documentation updates
<pmichaud> * Answered some Rakudo and PCT-related questions
<pmichaud> * Worked with jonathan++ on copy opcode, closing RT#47828
<pmichaud> * Now working on Rakudo milestones document, more PCT/Rakudo updates
<pmichaud> * Video of my FOSDEM talk on Perl 6 is now available: http://video.fosdem.org/2008/maintracks/FOSDEM2008-perl6.ogg
<pmichaud> EOR
<chromatic> rgrjr?
<rgrjr> * Deprecated stack ops, in two stages.
<rgrjr> * Rewrote hanoi.pir to be more PIR-like.
<rgrjr> .eor
<chromatic> smash?
<smash> no report, soz
<chromatic> tewk?
<chromatic> Okay, let's go to question time.
<chromatic> barney, go ahead.
* Infinoid takes a question ticket
<barney> Can rotty have commit privs, for contributing to Eclectus?
<chromatic> +1
<pmichaud> cla?
<chromatic> +1 (if cla)
* particle arrives late
<barney> http://www.perlfoundation.org/contributor_license_agreement
<chromatic> barney, are you willing to mentor and give the "Do not break the build" lecture?
<barney> Sure, I lecture about, break the build only once a month :=)
<Infinoid> tomorrow is official Break The Parrot day
<particle> fine with me, 0.6.1 will fly in an hour or so :)
<chromatic> particle, do you want to report now?
<particle> sure. mainly, release prep and travel last few days
<particle> release should be out the door soon. Infinoid++ and moritz++ for helping me, since 'make release' is broken on windows
<particle> also, added glibc detection step to configure, and fixed gettext detection
<particle> started adding gettext implementation, but i really need to figure out the make process next before doing anything else related to that
<particle> latest update from GSoC is tpf will get 5 slots.
<particle> we're still hoping for more, because we have 13 proposals we'd like to mentor
<particle> .end
<chromatic> Infinoid, you had a question.
<Infinoid> yes
<Infinoid> RT #47011 is about deprecating new_from_string.  I'm curious whether that will happen soon.
<Infinoid> it causes test hangs with --gc=libc, so if it will remain around for a while, I'd like to start skipping tests or something.
<chromatic> If we can do it in the next week, we should do it in the next week.
<Infinoid> does that translate to "go for it"? :)
<particle> yes, after release is final
<Infinoid> ok, thanks.
<Infinoid> EOQ
<chromatic> I have a question.
<chromatic> What can we do to improve our velocity at hitting milestones?
<chromatic> We're a couple of months behind now, and I'm concerned that we're piling most of that work on allison.
<Coke> take a list of what's pending, and ping the list for volunteers.
<rgrjr> clone you and allison?
<Coke> sounds like something a PM should ... crud.
<particle> "go for it"
<pmichaud> although I'm behind on the milestones attached to me, I do plan to hit them in the next four weeks.
<chromatic> The PMC milestone worked well from an implementation POV (though not deadline) because allison broke up the milestone into one-to-four hour tasks.
<chromatic> I suspect something similar would work for other development milestones.
<particle> agreed.
<particle> let's wikify that
<Infinoid> if I can get a list of those tasks (RT?  wiki?), I would like to help knock them out.
<chromatic> The wiki's probably the way to go.
<chromatic> I'd just like to make sure we don't block on any one person for more than a day or two.
<barney> Another q: What is the position on Copyleft code in 'languages' ? 
<barney> http://mumble.net/~campbell/darcs/riaxpander/LICENCE
<chromatic> Are you linking against that code?
<rgrjr> dig @xanadu bulgercapital.com
<barney> It will be imported by the Eclectus compiler
<rgrjr> (oops; sorry)
<chromatic> It's basically an ISC license, so as long as we abide by its terms, it's compatible with the AL 2.0, in my opinion.
<allison> it's not exactly a copyleft license
<allison> would rather not have anything other than AL 2 code in the tarballs
<allison> but, this license is compatible with AL 2
<Coke> allison: it occurs to me that languages/tcl may need to get a cleaning based on current license-think.
<allison> so, it's legally okay
<allison> well, ideally, all languages will ultimately move out of the default tarball
<allison> so, they can be under any license they want
<allison> no restrictions
<allison> languages will be a separate package install
<allison> barney: for now, include it if you need it
<barney> cool
* rotty will send his riaxpander patch RSN
<chromatic> Is there anything else?
<rgrjr> I got no response on the continuation barrier issue.  Last call.
<particle> fix it, dear henry.
<particle> ;)
<rgrjr> i wish.
<allison> rgrjr: haven't even had time to look at the post, apologies
<rgrjr> allison: should I give you more time before I file the ticket?
<particle> it'll make good reading on a long flight
<allison> hard to answer, since I don't know what the ticket is about, but on general principles it doesn't hurt to have problems listed as tickets
<rgrjr> part of the post is asking how to file the ticket.  i'm in no great rush.
<allison> rgrjr: I'd keep the ticket brief (again on general principles)
<rgrjr> then I'm already in trouble.
<rgrjr> in any case, I probably won't be in a position to do much until Sunday.
<allison> okay, I'll have time to read it on the plane
<rgrjr> allison: great.
<rgrjr> (EOQ, btw)
<chromatic> Anything else?
<chromatic> Okay, thanks everyone.  See you all next week.
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