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<Infinoid> * PDD13: Started fleshing out the Packfile PMC methods.
<Infinoid> * Some preliminary success accessing .pbc file headers from PIR
<Infinoid> * Still have lots more to go.
<Infinoid> * trunk: some cage cleaning, and an OS X linker tweak reported by tetragon++.
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<pmichaud> I'll be back in 10
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<Coke> ~~
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* Coke checks the logs...
<Coke> Infinoid has a report in backscroll. 
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<Coke> I see pmichaud will return shortly. Anyone else awake?
<chromatic> ping
<allison> pong
* particle  
* Tene 
* Jonathan jonathan
<Jonathan> oh
<Jonathan> duh
<Coke> Alrightee. Seems to have been a slow week, commit wise. I cleaned up the RT queue a bit by moving all the partcl language tickets over to http://partcl.googlecode.com/. 
<Coke> only a small dent, though.
<Coke> Let's see, no particular order this week. Jonathan, you've been busy today. You're up.
<Coke> (and I reserve a question!)
<Jonathan> * Started out using the (Vienna.pm)++ funded days to hack on Rakudo. Did one on Thursday, one today; will try and settle on a day a bit more after I've moved appartment and stuff is less crazy.
<Jonathan> * Blogged about the first day of it; will post about today's work later on.
<Jonathan> * Implemented various things in Rakudo, relating to OO and grammar/regex/rule support, plus random other fixes, patch applications, bug fixes, refactorings and so forth.
<Jonathan> * Managed to close several tickets in the Rakudo queue today
<Jonathan> * Arranged going to two conferences (FPW and NPW) to talk about Perl 6, plus I've been invited to give a guest lecture on Parrot and PCT at Stockholm University.
<Jonathan> * Trying to be on IRC and be generally helpful.
<Jonathan> .end
<Coke> Thanks.
<Coke> chromatic?
<chromatic> Made some progress on concurrency; waiting on Allison for other parts.
<chromatic> Going to work on the GC patch and a few other things.
<chromatic> Closed a few tickets.
<chromatic> I'd like to get our open tickets down to 700 by the next release.  That's a couple of tickets for every committer.
<chromatic> Have a question about my patch to improve the "Null PMC in invoke()" error message.
<chromatic> that's it
<Coke> danke.
<Coke> particle?
<particle> discussed various items and answered questions on #parrot.
<particle> no code this week
<particle> currently working on getting more directives in the rakudo spectests
<particle> should make failure reports easier on the eyes
<particle> .end
<Coke> gratzi.
<Coke> allison?
<allison> - I moved exceptions over to the concurrency scheduler, keeping the same interface while replacing the guts.
<allison> - I have 30 failing tests left to resolve (mainly 'rethrow' and a handler scope issue), then will check it in. 
<allison> - (I can commit now if chromatic doesn't mind 30 failing tests, and wants to get cracking on other related pieces today.)
<allison> EOR
<Coke> gracias.
<Coke> tene?
<pmichaud> (back)
<Coke> pmichaud, you're up. =-)
<pmichaud> spent most of the weekend doing $other_job
<pmichaud> lots of discussions on #parrot and #perl6 with jonathan++, obra++, and others about O-O features, test suite, etc.
<pmichaud> earlier today committed a patch to PCT so that it gives a more helpful "sub 'foo' not found" instead of "Null PMC in invoke"
* Tene 
<pmichaud> I have a few other "quick-implementation" items to take care of, then will start on larger things such as unifying protoobjects, hll namespace for rakudo, and the like.
<pmichaud> .eor
<Coke> arigato.
<Coke> tene, ok. =-)
<Tene> Got functions working properly in cardinal.
<Tene> Trailing commas are now allowed in rakudo.
<Tene> .eor
<Coke> blagodaria.
<Coke> let's see, my question was regarding the build error in trunk. Getting "Cannot put <mumble> non-IO PMC" when building the fpmc.
<Coke> that error message is from a recent chromatic commit, but that may just be a red herring.
<Coke> (I think I got all the reports, btw. let me know if you have one and I missed you!)
<Coke> I'll open a ticket if I can reproduce it.
* Coke tags chromatic.
<chromatic> Are there any objections to my patch to improve the "Cannot invoke NULL PMC error?"
<Coke> what's the RT again? 
<chromatic> Coke, that's a new warning to avoid a segfault.
<chromatic> RT #49972
<Coke> chromatic: it warns me quite an infinity of times. =-)
<pmichaud> I saw the same thing until I completely removed my parrot working copy and checked out a new one from the repo
<chromatic> Beats crashing, right?
* particle beats chromatic
<Coke> chromatic: aside from generic "too many ops" fears, +1 on that patch.
<pmichaud> I'll be more than happy to back-out my PCT version of the same in favor of the parrot one.  (I've already registered my +1 on the list.)
<chromatic> Yeah, I'm not thrilled about adding an op, but until we have a nicer way to generate PBC this is the easiest approach.
<chromatic> My question is whether the improved warning is worth it.
<particle> ops are cheap, until we implement security :)
<particle> +1
<Jonathan> I think it's worth having.
<pmichaud> We have to have something like it *somewhere*.
<pmichaud> (the warning, that is)
<pmichaud> the PCT workaround is only partial, because it doesn't help PIR coders.
<Coke> we can either have it in core or in every HLL.
<allison> chromatic: sounds good
<particle> :O
<chromatic> Alright, hearing no dissent I'll put in this version and long for the day when we can do it in PBC optimization.
<pmichaud> also, the PCT workaround is very likely slower, since it involves generating extra test+branch, exception, and labels for every named subroutine call
<Coke> It will allow me to clean the tcl version of this as well.
<chromatic> That's all for my question, unless particle's shock was shock of horror, not shock of glee.
<Coke> there were no more questions enqueued. How's everyone doing?
<pmichaud> excellent here
<Coke> I'm fat but otherwise ok. =-)
<chromatic> Don't forget bald!
<Jonathan> I'm good...going to be offline a bit around the weekend and early next week because I'm moving.
<allison> very well here, it's fun to be neck deep in code again :)
<Jonathan> At last, I will live somewhere that has a .pm group.
<particle> :)
<Coke> I think we can beat chromatic's goal of 700 new+open tickets, btw. (and shoving them into stalled doesn't count =-)
<pmichaud> I just resolved a couple.
<Coke> +1
<particle> who else wants allison to break trunk tests so chromatic has something productive to do today?
<allison> I have a handful of exceptions-related ones to close after my next commit
<allison> particle: oh, those aren't trunk tests, they're branch tests
<Coke> I don't have a problem with that in advance of the release. Just send a note to the list so that we don't get 30 tickets about it.
<Coke> oh!
<Coke> break away, then
<allison> pdd25cx branch
<particle> +1
<Coke> those only need to be clean when they merge back. =-)
<allison> ok, I'll commit now
<Jonathan> allison: Is this branch going to have a good clean-up of threading and so forth too?
<allison> yup
<Jonathan> Excellent.
<allison> it's moving exceptions and threads to the concurrency scheduler
* Jonathan looks forward to implementing async { ... }
<Coke> and [after]!
<pmichaud> heh
<Coke> ... I need to come up with a catchy slogan that ends in 'tcl too' and wear it around yapc. ^_O
<pmichaud> (async) -- I asked about Perl 6 concurrency during last week's conference call and I think it's still a bit nebulous
<pmichaud> "Winnie the Pooh and tcl too"
<Coke> Alright. Gonna call it. Have a good week, everyone. Thanks for all the hard work.
<pmichaud> see ya next week
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<Jonathan> bye all
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