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<Coke> We've still got 2 minutes.  Hi everybody.
<Coke> (one minute)
* jhorwitz waves
* pmichaud hears bells in the distance.
<Coke> Welcome to another fun filled week of parrot development.
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<Coke> pmichaud: you ready to report?
<pmichaud> yes.
<pmichaud> == Closed 18 RT tickets
<pmichaud> == Marked Super PMC as deprecated
<pmichaud> == Have notes on potentially closing a dozen more -- need to send
<pmichaud>    to list or discuss
<pmichaud> == Rakudo improvements:
<pmichaud> : Fixed fatarrow pair parsing:  foo => 'bar'
<pmichaud> : Added default values to signatures:   sub foo($x = 3, $y = 'x')
<pmichaud> : Updated STATUS, ROADMAP
<pmichaud> : Fixed TODO tests in Test.pm
<pmichaud> : Refactored tests in t/spec/S02-*
<pmichaud> : Added prefix:<true> and prefix:<not>
<pmichaud> == PGE improvements:
<pmichaud> : Fixed handling of <.ws> rule in operator precedence parsing (RT#52718)
<pmichaud> : Updated PGE to match newer S05 syntax
<pmichaud>   . non-capturing <?foo> is now <.foo>
<pmichaud>   . <?foo> means zero-width assertion
<pmichaud>   . Added <foo=bar> form of aliasing
<pmichaud>   . Added <foo: 'bar'> and <foo: "bar"> argument syntax
<pmichaud>   . Updated Match object methods to follow S05
<pmichaud> :  Updated tools and languages to use new PGE syntax
<pmichaud> == Working on improving register and value handling in PAST
<pmichaud> == Added lt, le, gt, ge to NQP
<pmichaud> .eor
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<Coke> Woof. you're back!
<Coke> chromatic?
<chromatic> Applied several patches; want to discuss this in question time.
<chromatic> Closed several tickets.  We're hovering around 800.
<chromatic> Going to work on the concurrency branch shortly.
<chromatic> Blocking on some complexity in the GC related to the Stack_Chunk_t changes I want.
<chromatic> Will explore the GC tickets soonish.
<chromatic> Doing preliminary work for wknight and his SoC work.
<chromatic> .end
<particle> *hovering around 700
<chromatic> That too.
<Coke> (800 if you count stalled. which we're not just now.)
<Coke> particle, you spoke, you're up.
<particle> some talks with tpf and parrot folk about parrot foundation matters
<particle> .end
<Coke> ok. Allison?
<allison> - Working on concurrency implementation tasks.
<allison> - Have spent a good deal of time chasing down rabbit holes of old code.
<allison> - Checking in a few things now, more tomorrow.
<allison> - I'm about to move on to the 'threads' side of the concurrency implementation.
<allison> EOR
<Coke> thanks! jhorwitz?
<jhorwitz> getting some more time to work on things, which is good with YAPC around the corner.
<jhorwitz> migrating the mod_perl6 bundled w/ mod_parrot to pure perl6.
<jhorwitz> several small changes required to make that happen, which were working before w/ small hacks to rakudo, but want to formalize those changes and commit.
<jhorwitz> orking on a "just enough" implementation of interpolated namespaces in rakudo to support mp6.  it works, but needs fleshing out -- i'm registering a question about that for some further discussion.
<jhorwitz> EOR
<Coke> alright. no one else said hi, earlier, so I'll go next.
<Coke> ... trying to clean up the RT queue.
<Coke> .EOR
<ambs> lol
<Coke> ambs, you're next!
<ambs> .EOR
<ambs> :-P
<Coke> I reserve a question for ambs. :P
<Coke> Anyone else have anything other than no report to report?
<Coke> private message me if you want to queue a report after discussion...
<Coke> chromatic, you had a patchy question?
<chromatic> japhb raised a point in that we have a lot of patches hang around for a while until someone can get to them.
<chromatic> I realize not everyone feels comfortable applying patches... but just about anyone (and not just committers) can test the patch locally.
<chromatic> How can we address patches more effectively?
<Coke> I had mentioned that in the parrotblog entry. Get feedback on the patches to let us know if they still apply cleanly, any tests fail, etc.
<pmichaud> that's what my "dozen or so comments" is about
<Coke> I think it's a symptom of managing the RT queue. I think over the next week or so, we'll see an improvement.
<Coke> (as we're tearing through a lot of stuff after your "700
<Coke> " challenge.)
<pmichaud> I'm in the "not feeling comfortable applying patches" group
<chromatic> I figured there are a lot of people not comfortable applying patches to certain areas.
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<Coke> they can still do the legwork, though.
<tewk> Is there a RT patches query?  I'll try to do a few.
<cotto_work> that'll be nice
<Coke> tewk: yes.
<cotto_work> I've been looking for things to do that don't involve direct code contributions
<Coke> http://www.parrotcode.org/resources.html // Open Patches
<Coke> chromatic: I'll post to the mailing list a link to the blog and mention that.
<chromatic> Thanks.
<Coke> jhorwitz, your q?
<jhorwitz> for namespace interpolation....  i have a working patch for subroutine calls, but that's it.  probably not what we want long term.  should i still commit?
<pmichaud> the patch is for rakudo?
<Coke> is it in the queue?
<jhorwitz> yes
<pmichaud> send it to rakudobug and let me or jonathan take a look
<jhorwitz> Coke: didn't submit as a ticket, but i can
<pmichaud> (or attach patch to existing ticket)
<Coke> if you have a doubt, RT it.
<pmichaud> normally I'd say go ahead and commit it, but since it's specific to subroutine calls it's probably worth a look first
<jhorwitz> ok, will do.  my concern is that we should have a more generic way of doing it, and i'm too parser-challenged to figure it out.  :)
<Coke> alrightee, we can fight that out in the queue. =-)
<jhorwitz> that's all i had. 
<Coke> my question for ambs: any thing parrot-related show up in this quarter's TPF grant proposals?
<pmichaud> (having the patch will definitely help me clarify my thoughts on the issue)
<Coke> (yes, I know I know that already. :P)
<ambs> Coke, yes, I would say that
<Coke> ... that something showed up or that i should already have known? =-)
<ambs> But no, no parrot-reated grant proposal
<ambs> just a SMOP and a Perl 6 related grants
<Coke> Danke.
<ambs> but there is one proposal for Q3
<Coke> I haven't gotten any private msgs about pending reports, that's all the questions in the queue...
<Coke> ambs: excellent.
<ambs> Tcl/Tk access for Rakudo
<ambs> But we will get on that later (July)
<Coke> *boggle* that's of direct concern to me, I think, I'll have to go look at that one!
<pmichaud> I hope we have heredocs ready by then. :-)
<Coke> Anyone blocking on anything other than time?
<pmichaud> I have a small block
<pmichaud> (need to look it up)
<Coke> ok. If you get stuck too long, ask on list to see if you can offload.
<Coke> (or parrot.)
<pmichaud> RT#47956.
<pmichaud> That's preventing me from implementing closures properly.
<pmichaud> (or at least getting closer.)
<Coke> Sat Jan 12 12:51:00 2008   allison - Taken
<Coke> allison, are you still on that?
<allison> yup
<pmichaud> related is RT#47794.
<Coke> allison took that one about two minutes before she took the other one. =-)
<allison> it's not currently on the "this week" list, but can be
<pmichaud> it's not that urgent, I don't think... but some people are starting to do closure-like things in Rakudo
<allison> we'll need them for exception handler subs too
<pmichaud> or, they're wanting to do them, but can't in some instances because PCT/Parrot won't support them.
<pmichaud> that's it for me.
<allison> you know, reading those two tickets side-by-side makes me wonder if we've got an imcc parser problem with :outer
<pmichaud> RT#47956 looks to me like a parsing problem,yes.
<allison> I'm getting that "trying to jump from runloop" error with the exceptions implementation too, so definitely consider 47956 a "this week"
<pmichaud> okay, that would solve most of it
<pmichaud> RT#47794 isn't common.
<Coke> excellent.
<Coke> Looking forward to seeing many of you in the next month.
<pmichaud> A note to the group that next Tuesday is release day
<pmichaud> update NEWS, test platforms, etc.
<Coke> don't break it or we'll make you do the release.
<pmichaud> Also pay attention to DEPRECATED.pod, as I'm planning to rip some things out on Wednesday. :-)
<Coke> chromatic, you're up, right?
<chromatic> It's all mine.
<Coke> pmichaud: you can always create a branch and get a head start if you're impatient.
<chromatic> Can we do a bug day on Saturday?
<chromatic> I won't be around all day, but it might be nice.
<Coke> (the type_ids branch is all about deprecations)
<pmichaud> I might be able to do Saturday bug day, yes
<Coke> I can't promise availability, but will check email.
<pmichaud> Coke:  my ripping is all ready to go -- I just have to pull the trigger.  :-)
<Coke> if we have a bug day, perhaps we can target killing another 50 tickets.
<Coke> (before the release.)
<pmichaud> oh, that would be cool.  I'll plan for Saturday bug day, although I'll likely be unavailable 9am-1pm CDT.
<Coke> chromatic: you want to post something at parrotblog about that?
<chromatic> Will do.
<Coke> alrightee. I'm calling it. Thanks, everybody!
<pmichaud> thanks, Coke!
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