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<DietCoke> Hallo, everyone. anyone with a report comin', pm me to let me know. about 2 m.
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<pmichaud> here.
<DietCoke> alrightee. let's go with tene, who assures me his report is nanoscopic.
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<DietCoke> See? 
<DietCoke> Ok. Chromatic, you go. Tene can follow you if he wakes up. =-)
<chromatic> I've been fiddling with strings, especially constant strings.
<chromatic> More of our strings are now compile-time constant, and dynpmcs can now use CONST_STRING for those too.
<chromatic> Uniformity of examples ++
<chromatic> I'm working on const string caching, to save even more compile time.
<chromatic> I also changed the string splitting does_isa to use a hash lookup, and that's a nice conceptual improvement, even if the code code use a bit of a refactor.
<chromatic> Mostly concentrating on small optimizations that produce cleaner code, though I think the benchmark is now maybe 10% faster than last week.
<chromatic> I'll do my best to poke at the pdd25cx branch too, to see if there are any fixes I can make.
<chromatic> That merge is going to be nasty though....
<chromatic> and that's it.
<Tene> Cardinal now has support for class definitions and instantiation.  Couple of syntax fixups in response to cizra, an acquaintance I'm trying to con into working on cardinal.
<Tene> .eor
<DietCoke> excellent. I forgot to actually say something nice and pleasant to start off the sketch, so let's take that as written...
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<DietCoke> pmichaud? (and that's everyone who said they had a report. pm me if you have something to share. =-)
<pmichaud> ** Rakudo spectest_regression:  59 files, 705 passing tests  (+4, +67 from last #parrotsketch)
<pmichaud> == Parrot stuff
<pmichaud> : Added get_number vtable method to Hash
<pmichaud> : Fixed the 'add_sub' method in Namespace to allow MultiSub PMCs
<pmichaud> : Ported the CONTROL_* exception constants from pdd25cx into trunk
<pmichaud> == PCT stuff
<pmichaud> : Added 'control handlers' to PAST::Block -- allows a block to catch an exception (e.g., return exceptions) and process them
<pmichaud> : PCT provides reasonable defaults, but also allows HLLs to easily override control exception handling
<pmichaud> == PGE stuff
<pmichaud> : Fixed a backtracking bug in the operator precedence parser
<pmichaud> : Adjusted token matching in operator precedence parser so that word tokens (all alphanumerics) require a word boundary to match.
<pmichaud> == NQP stuff
<pmichaud> : Added 'return' statement to NQP.
<pmichaud> == Rakudo stuff
<pmichaud> : Updated test targets
<pmichaud> : Fixed a number of operators to do proper casting
<pmichaud> : More refactorings to handle MMD properly
<pmichaud> : Added 'return' function.
<pmichaud> : pointy subs in 'for' now work
<pmichaud> : We need a review to see which tests are now regression candidates
<pmichaud> : Have a preliminary implementation of 'fail', will commit it shortly.
<pmichaud> : Fixed a bug where floating point constants were losing precision in generated PIR code
<pmichaud> : Created a tools/test_summary.pl script to run regression tests and provide more accurate summary of planned, actual, passed, failed, todo, and skipped tests
<pmichaud> : Fixed scalar assignment to work even for non-Rakudo objects (jhorwitz++)
<pmichaud> : Refactored handling of named unaries
<pmichaud> : Added Complex type
<pmichaud> : Added closure interpolation to double-quoted strings
<pmichaud>  
<pmichaud> Big news of the week is that we now have 'return' nodes in PCT, and 'return' works in NQP and Rakudo (for small values of "works")
<pmichaud> .eor
* DietCoke tries to turn off the firehose, there...
<japhb> I feel so unproductive now.
<pmichaud> ...too much detail?
<DietCoke> nope. =-)
<DietCoke> you're fine. thanks for all the work. =-)
<DietCoke> OH NOES ITZ JONATHAN!
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<jonathan> * Did Rakudo stuff on Thursday, including
<jonathan> ** Getting readonly/rw/copy semantics right on parameters
<jonathan> ** A bit more work on Mutables and make .VAR and VAR(...) work
<jonathan> ** Got more of Range in place, and switch over to .. creating Range object (which is a lazy iterator)
<jonathan> ** Various other small fixes here and there
<jonathan> * Got :instanceof(...) on subs to parse; no implementation yet
<jonathan> * Put a good fix in for a GC bug that I'd put a bad fix in for last week 
<jonathan> * Got slides from my talks all online and written into a journal post.
<jonathan> * Will have Rakudo day on Thursday this week.
<jonathan> EOR
<DietCoke> lots of rakudo work going on, excellent.
<DietCoke> WK?
<Whiteknight> * Worked on fixing deprecation notes in PDD09, submitted a big patch for that
<Whiteknight> * Continuing work on the PDD09 GC. still early but making steady progress
<Whiteknight> * Evaluating and trying to salvage branches/gmc
<Whiteknight> EOR
<DietCoke> ok. lemme go next to last...
<DietCoke> I went on a crazy RT spree, gave many tickets a [TAG], closed some              old ones, proposing some patches, finding that HLL doesn't seem to              do much any more, opened some tickets for chip and simon to remove              their ex-parrots from CPAN. Tcl is still on life support.  Looking
<DietCoke> forward to yapc, except for the part about my diet.  I'll be there
<DietCoke> Friday.
<DietCoke> :wq
<DietCoke> allison, I assume you have something to report on, go ahead. =-)
<allison> - I spent a good bit of time finishing off the Parrot Foundation documents this week.
<allison> - The filing went through yesterday. Congratulations, you're all the proud parents of a healthy 10 lb bird!
<allison> - Also tracing down bugs with contexts in the concurrency branch. Basically, it's a fundamental mismatch between the reference counted context structs, and the garbage collected PMCs that contain the contexts and are stored within contexts. I've made and reverted a few conservative fixes, and am now nearly finished with a shift to make contexts full PMCs, so they participate cleanly in GC.
<pmichaud> allison++ and others  # Parrot Foundation
<allison> - The change to contexts will fix some of our other context memory leaks too.
<allison> EOR
<jonathan> allison++ # contexts as PMCs! ;-)
<jonathan> s/;-)/:-)/
<DietCoke> Anyone else with a report, you're out of luck. muahahah.
<DietCoke> So, two big parrot/perl6 things at yapc this week, the hackathon and the workshop.
<DietCoke> There is a wiki page for each of them at the conference wiki.
<DietCoke> I didn't see any questions reserved... Anyone?
<cotto-work> yes
<DietCoke> shoot.
<Tene> DietCoke: What should I work on tonight while I'm offline at the hotel?
<pmichaud> Lightning Talk!  :-)
<cotto-work> I'm writing up a PHP spec and want to know how to be sure that any implementation won't be tainted by the original license.
<DietCoke> tene: Coming up with an awesome implementation to make ATTR in pmcs actually do all the hard work?
<cotto-work> (for Plumhead)
<DietCoke> I'll defer to allison on any licensing questions.
<allison> cotto-work: it's only affected by the original license if you cut and paste code
<cotto-work> sounds good to me
<cotto-work> that's the assumption I've been working under
<cotto-work> eoq
<allison> re-implementing the same interface is not touched by copyright
<DietCoke> I asked on list, but what's the deal with HLL? looks like the mapping got ripped out when we switched to PCC, perhaps?
<barney> sounds good to me too
<allison> DietCoke: it's possible. looking for message... 
<DietCoke> allison: http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=55586
<allison> DietCoke: it's also possible that it never worked quite right
<DietCoke> ok, I didn't so much ask as rant. =-)
<DietCoke> allison: it worked well enough to use it in tcl. =-)
<DietCoke> when i resurrected tcl a few months ago, I noticed that part wasn't working at the moment, but hadn't gotten back to diagnosing why until today.
<DietCoke> that also refers back to http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=40124, which was an old request for documentation on what we could map.
<DietCoke> I'd rather see pdd25 merged back in though, so don't change your priorities. =-)
<allison> it also might have been written out during the objects or PMC transitions
<pmichaud> agreed, it's not high priority for rakudo at the moment either.
<allison> could you condense it into a TODO test, and point to it from the ticket?
<allison> agreed, pdd25 branch is a higher priority, but we will get to it
<Whiteknight> when is the pdd25 branch merge going to happen, roughly?
<DietCoke> it's not a PIR-only test, requires a pmc.
<DietCoke> I am hoping we can resolve all the issues with pdd25 in time to do it just after the next release.
<DietCoke> ... given there's a hackathon this weekend. Allison?
<allison> yah
<allison> aside from PGE not compiling, we're down to about 10 failing tests in the pdd25 branch
<pmichaud> do we have any specific targets/tasks for the hackathon?
<DietCoke> those're on the wiki. Feel free to add to it.
<pmichaud> okay, excellent.
<DietCoke> I may create a meta ticket for the hackathon, also.
<DietCoke> (but let's just -refer- to the tickets we want done, so we can close it when we're done.)
<DietCoke> ticket number is...
<DietCoke> 55588
<DietCoke> FULL HOUSE!
<DietCoke> Anyone have anything else we should do to prepare for the hackathon or the workshop?
<DietCoke> kid51++ for organizing the workshop.
<chromatic> Figure out time, location, food, and snacks.
<DietCoke> At the moment, "the dorms".
<DietCoke> I am willing to be the primary point of contact for folks trying to find us.
<pmichaud> I'm arriving Saturday noonish.
<DietCoke> ... I suppose that means I should give out my cell phone #, at least to you jokers.
<chromatic> Especially for those of us jet-lagged after cross-country flights arriving around midnight.
<DietCoke> alrightee. anything else? I'll send out an email about the hackathon.
<DietCoke> no? See most of you this weekend!
<pmichaud> see you this weekend.
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<cotto-work> agreed!
<pmichaud> no parrotsketch next week?
<allison> see you there!
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<DietCoke> Good point. I think we'll skip it, yah, as most of us will be elsewhere.
<DietCoke> I'll send an email about that as well.
<DietCoke> gooooood night, everybody.
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